±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 362
Total: 362
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Member Screenshots
04: Community Forums
05: Member Screenshots
06: Community Forums
07: Your Account
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Home
11: Home
12: Downloads
13: Member Screenshots
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Photo Gallery
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Photo Gallery
20: Community Forums
21: Your Account
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Home
25: Member Screenshots
26: Home
27: Member Screenshots
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: News Archive
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Photo Gallery
35: News Archive
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Home
39: Your Account
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Your Account
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: Your Account
50: Member Screenshots
51: Statistics
52: Community Forums
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Photo Gallery
58: Home
59: Photo Gallery
60: Your Account
61: Your Account
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Member Screenshots
65: Member Screenshots
66: Community Forums
67: Member Screenshots
68: Photo Gallery
69: Your Account
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Your Account
74: Community Forums
75: Your Account
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: Photo Gallery
79: Member Screenshots
80: Community Forums
81: Photo Gallery
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: News Archive
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Your Account
91: Community Forums
92: Your Account
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: News Archive
99: Home
100: Downloads
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Downloads
104: Home
105: Your Account
106: Member Screenshots
107: Community Forums
108: Home
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Your Account
115: Community Forums
116: Member Screenshots
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Your Account
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Member Screenshots
125: Community Forums
126: News Archive
127: Your Account
128: Community Forums
129: Member Screenshots
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Member Screenshots
133: Community Forums
134: Your Account
135: Community Forums
136: Statistics
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Home
140: Member Screenshots
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Your Account
144: Your Account
145: Community Forums
146: News Archive
147: Member Screenshots
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: Supporters
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: Member Screenshots
154: Downloads
155: Your Account
156: News
157: Community Forums
158: Home
159: Downloads
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Your Account
165: Community Forums
166: News Archive
167: Home
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Home
174: Community Forums
175: Home
176: Your Account
177: Community Forums
178: Your Account
179: Member Screenshots
180: Downloads
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Photo Gallery
185: Community Forums
186: Your Account
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Your Account
192: Your Account
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: News Archive
197: Community Forums
198: Downloads
199: Home
200: Community Forums
201: Member Screenshots
202: Home
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Home
206: Community Forums
207: Your Account
208: Community Forums
209: Home
210: News
211: Photo Gallery
212: Downloads
213: Photo Gallery
214: News Archive
215: Downloads
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Your Account
220: Community Forums
221: Member Screenshots
222: Home
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Member Screenshots
227: Photo Gallery
228: Home
229: Member Screenshots
230: Downloads
231: Member Screenshots
232: Community Forums
233: Photo Gallery
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Your Account
237: Photo Gallery
238: Home
239: News Archive
240: Your Account
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Your Account
245: Member Screenshots
246: Member Screenshots
247: Home
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Home
253: Community Forums
254: Your Account
255: Community Forums
256: Your Account
257: News Archive
258: Member Screenshots
259: Member Screenshots
260: Downloads
261: Community Forums
262: Your Account
263: Home
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Your Account
269: Member Screenshots
270: Community Forums
271: Downloads
272: Home
273: Member Screenshots
274: Downloads
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Member Screenshots
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Member Screenshots
282: Community Forums
283: Your Account
284: Downloads
285: Your Account
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Photo Gallery
290: Community Forums
291: Home
292: Community Forums
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: Your Account
296: Downloads
297: Downloads
298: Photo Gallery
299: News Archive
300: Your Account
301: Member Screenshots
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Member Screenshots
306: Photo Gallery
307: Your Account
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Member Screenshots
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Your Account
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Photo Gallery
319: Community Forums
320: Your Account
321: Community Forums
322: Home
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Home
327: Community Forums
328: Photo Gallery
329: Community Forums
330: Your Account
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: News Archive
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Downloads
337: Home
338: Downloads
339: Community Forums
340: Your Account
341: Community Forums
342: Member Screenshots
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Home
349: Your Account
350: Community Forums
351: Home
352: Photo Gallery
353: Community Forums
354: Your Account
355: Member Screenshots
356: Home
357: Community Forums
358: Home
359: Community Forums
360: Home
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:52 pm
Post subject: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

Dmitry Buskmakow just sent me some pictures of the StuG III from Volokolamsk, that has been recently restored by his company. The side skirts and the roof have been accurately refurbished. Here are some photos before/after :











P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Walter
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 09, 2010
Posts: 618
Location: Arnhem
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:41 pm
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

Well Dmitry did a nice job
Now it can resist the Russian weather some more years
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:44 pm
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

They've done a good job. Is there any known history for this vehicle? I assume it's been mined, judging by the damage to the drive wheel & loss of road wheels. New top? So blown up too?
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:44 am
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

That must be the only surviving AusF D left?

What was the date of the 'Before' photographs?

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:49 am
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

I've always loved the 'dramatic' effect of the many such Russian Memorials / Tank displays

The 'facelift' is an additional nice touch.

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Walter
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 09, 2010
Posts: 618
Location: Arnhem
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:24 pm
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

" That must be the only surviving AusF D left? "

There was an Ausf.D at Axvall ,probably now in the new Arsenallen Museum !
Back to top
View user's profile
Rikard_Hufschmied
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 458
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:20 pm
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

- Walter
" That must be the only surviving AusF D left? "

There was an Ausf.D at Axvall ,probably now in the new Arsenallen Museum !


Yep, The D is at Arsenalen.

_________________
Frustra Nate Vive Devincere
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
AlexBr
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 09, 2011
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:05 pm
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored


RUSSIAN REPORTER* : "Fools and armored vehicle StuG III".

*Most Democratic russian magazine

In Volokolamsk (the administrative center of Volokolamsky District of Moscow region, Russia) enthusiasts restored war memorial at their own expense, and in gratitude have a criminal case for damage the monument. The initiators of the case suspect the restorers of profit motive, but a closer look at the whole story is discovering provincial level politics .
- What does that mean "the damage the monument?" Please, imagine that a patient with appendicitis complains surgeon for scars after successful operation, - Dmitry Bushmakow, the director of "Leibstandarte" company that fulfilled restoration work, stays in confusion for some weeks already.
His company decided to refurbish the military memorial near Volokolamsk in this summer. The composition of the monument includes one of the few surviving in the world example of the German StuG III of the World War II period. The Sturmgeschutz III assault gun was Germany`s most produced armored fighting vehicle during WWII, built on the chassis of the Panzer III tank.
The first question of the Head of Volokolamsk`s Municipality was: "Why do you want to do it for your money? Are you insane or stupid? "- explains Bushmakow.
As a result the contract with the Municipality had been signed. It`s a great success for local authorities to restore the city memorial to the sponsorship money. One must take into account that the monument was in a terrible condition before restoration. Someone uprooted mashine`s superstructure hatches, stolen granite from the pedestal; vandals left the inscription on the granite slabs argued visitors that "Putin is the thief", etc.
Then some local residents noticed that Dmitry Bushmakow`s company involved in military antique business.
- There was information by our search channels that the tank "was stolen by someone`s order", - our reporter was informed by a member of the one of the local battlefield research groups. And the company found the easiest way to deliver the assault gun collector on a silver platter directly! It was taken to repair, but sham copy returned - knocked as in a tin!
- It`s impossible! - perturbed Dmitry. - 20-ton crane was crunched while removing the machine from pedestal to be brought into the Leibstandarte workshop for repair, and it was returned back with help of the 50-ton crane, for a more easier load on pedestal! Experts from the Ministry of Culture made recommendations for restoration. The metal profile of special configuration was purchased and brought from France specially for the wings on each side of vehicle, as they had been pulled off before.
The official experts of the Federal Service for law observance supervision in the field of protection of cultural heritage have confirmed originality and the highest quality of restoration. But in the Moscow Region Prosecutor's Office argued that they have their own expertise evidencing that this is StuG`s remakes. However nobody have seen this expertise, except for the prosecutors maybe, and its authors are still unknown.
At the same time many people find the explanation for the unexpected activity of Volokolamsk prosecutors in politics.
- It was clear from the beginning that nobody is interested in this monument, this is just an excuse to discredit the Mayor of Volokolamsk Vasily Shulepov - says "RR" municipality official. - He is not very friendly with the Head of the district. And in a criminal case it is possible to prosecute him and after there removed by law from office during the investigation. The Deputy prosecutor Alexei Bondarenko had already informed that a criminal case may be initiated against the Mayor under the article "Abuse of authority" considered as an disciplinable offense.
"RR" wrote a lot about intricate relationship between the municipal authorities. Confusion in the local government system made a Law on Local Self-Government adopted in 2006. Previously, all the towns and villages of the district were subordinated to the Head of the district. With adoption of this law within the district appeared urban and rural settlements with their own authorities. Being parts of the district, they are equal in their administrative status. This led to endless conflicts between the heads of districts and towns for the power, property, lands.
What provoked quarrel the Mayor Shulepov with the Head of the district Karabanov is unknown.
- This is a hidden war. But they are both now as Luzhkov and Gromov (previous Moscow Major and his Collegue in Moscow Region) in their time: can not stand each other and through backstage fight trying to assert the authority.

It`s not excluded that Karabanov bargained with prosecutors.
So, before doing good any business in the Russian provinces, it is necessary to ask whether there is a conflict between the local authorities.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:48 pm
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

thanks for the report !!

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Rikard_Hufschmied
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 458
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:23 am
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

I don't know what to make of this honestly? One one hand a priceless original vehicle is saved from rot and decay. On the other hand, a historical monument has been altered (in a form falsified) but ...

The visual restoration on hand is stunning! So much better than it was before. And as a non-original vehicle it is also much easier to maintain and restore from future (sad to say certain) vandalism.

The law is the law however and last I know all armored fighting vehicles, in whatever condition are still State (MOD) property in Russia until stricken.

_________________
Frustra Nate Vive Devincere
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:40 pm
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

- Rikard_Hufschmied
And as a non-original vehicle it is also much easier to maintain and restore from future (sad to say certain) vandalism.


AFAIK, the prosecutor in Russia says that the vehicle is a reproduction, but "The official experts of the Federal Service for law observance supervision in the field of protection of cultural heritage have confirmed originality and the highest quality of restoration.", and I do think that this is the original vehicle, with new side fenders and partial new roof and hatches.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:17 am
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

Pierre-Olivier

This is just a tradition in Russia not to trust to journalists and their articles...
Much better is to make your own opinion from more reliable sources.

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:14 am
Post subject: Re: StuG III at Volokolamsk has been restored

- Koluchiy
Pierre-Olivier

This is just a tradition in Russia not to trust to journalists and their articles...
Much better is to make your own opinion from more reliable sources.


Koluchiy, never mind Russia, I wouldn't trust them anywhere in the world!
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum