±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: Harold_Biondo
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6644

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 126
Total: 126
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: CPGlang
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Home
09: Community Forums
10: CPGlang
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Home
14: Home
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Photo Gallery
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: CPGlang
25: Community Forums
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Home
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Home
37: Home
38: Home
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Photo Gallery
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Home
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Home
51: Downloads
52: Photo Gallery
53: Photo Gallery
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Home
58: Photo Gallery
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: CPGlang
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Downloads
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Home
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Home
95: Statistics
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Member Screenshots
102: Member Screenshots
103: Home
104: Downloads
105: Home
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: CPGlang
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Member Screenshots
113: Downloads
114: Your Account
115: News Archive
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Downloads
123: Photo Gallery
124: Home
125: News
126: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:17 pm
Post subject: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

Hi Folks!

Ran acrossed this news story.

www.army-technology.co...programme/

So the Army is going to test a General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) built Namer AIFV, a BAE Systems Swedish CV90, turret-less Bradley M2A3
and GD Stryker double-V-hull vehicle.

Interesting!

Anyone what to take bets on what willl happien?

Here is mine:
1. The GCV program will not get funded after the testing is completed.
2. The Stryker double-V-hull will be selected because it will be the cheapest.
The one bad point I can think of is this one would require new vehicles.
3. My last pick would be the turret-less Bradley.
Sense the GCV will replace some of the Bradleys, this one might be the cheapest becasue those Bradleys taken out of service could be used to build the new GCVs.
4. The CV-90 and the Namer will not be selected.
I know the US has been buying foreign equipment for a number of years. I just don't think during this time of high unemployment, Congress would buy a foreign build vehicle. Now if GDLS or BAE could build a plant in the US, then maybe they could get Congress to go with it.

That my 2 cents on the GCV program!
Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

The GCV prototypes currently in low rate production are based on much modified Abrams hulls - probably why the Namer is in the test program

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1199

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

Let's hope for the sake of the troops, that they pick the right one and don't just think of pork-barrelling.
Back to top
View user's profile
Smashy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 05, 2010
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

The foreign kit is just there to have its best features cherry-picked

_________________
Smashy
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:56 am
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

BAE just released some graphics of its GCV concept

www.flickr.com/photos/...otostream/

www.baesystems.com/pro...ehicle-gcv

My take is I wouldnt be surprised if GCV got caught in the changing requirements cycle dilemma just like the FCS MGVs.

FCS was designed/developed for rapid deployment requirements in the pre-9/11 pre-COIN era. FCS lasted from ~1999 (contract award in 2003) until 2009, well into the 9/11 COIN era - cancelled in large part due to the need for more survivability in a high IED environment.

GCV started in ~2009/2010, focused on delivering just an IFV (despite Gates' comments about a fleet a vehicles) based on lessons learned from Iraq & Afghanistan. Now just two years later, the COIN era has already been declared to be over/ending and DOD is shifting focus to the Pacific - where, guess what, rapid deployment capabilities are a priority...

And meanwhile there is absolutely no stated plan for replacement of:
M1 Abrams, M3 Bradley CFV, M109 family. The first two are approaching 25 years in service, with no replacement on the horizon for another 10-15+ years. They're talking about shutting down Lima for Abrams upgrades (actual production of new hulls ended decades ago). Meanwhile, the M109 family is approaching 45 years in service, with yet another upgrade now underway...

Wouldnt be surprised if the GCV requirements/acquisition strategy undergo another shakeup - but hopefully it wont take 10 years and billions down the drain before that happens...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1199

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:48 am
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

It's a government procurement, for the military.
It's bound to be
a) Years late
b) Hugely over budget
c) Not really what's required
Or am I just too cynical?
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

- Pzkpfw-e
It's a government procurement, for the military.
It's bound to be
a) Years late
b) Hugely over budget
c) Not really what's required
Or am I just too cynical?


Sounds about right Smile

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:12 am
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

Given the budget cuts that are coming because Congress can't agree on a budget so the automatic budget cuts will kick in I don't see any major programs being funded in the next few years

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum