±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 171
Total: 171
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Home
08: Home
09: Home
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Home
23: Home
24: Community Forums
25: Member Screenshots
26: Home
27: Home
28: Photo Gallery
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: News Archive
34: Home
35: Home
36: Member Screenshots
37: Home
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Home
42: Statistics
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: Home
48: Home
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Photo Gallery
53: Home
54: Home
55: Member Screenshots
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Home
60: Home
61: Home
62: Home
63: Home
64: Community Forums
65: Member Screenshots
66: Downloads
67: Photo Gallery
68: Home
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: Downloads
73: Home
74: Community Forums
75: Home
76: News Archive
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Photo Gallery
82: Home
83: Home
84: Photo Gallery
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Downloads
89: Home
90: Home
91: Community Forums
92: Home
93: Home
94: Home
95: Downloads
96: Community Forums
97: Home
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Downloads
104: Photo Gallery
105: Statistics
106: Community Forums
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Home
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Home
113: Home
114: Home
115: Home
116: Community Forums
117: Photo Gallery
118: Community Forums
119: Member Screenshots
120: Photo Gallery
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Home
126: Community Forums
127: News Archive
128: Home
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Home
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Photo Gallery
136: Home
137: News Archive
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Statistics
144: Home
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: Downloads
151: Home
152: Home
153: Member Screenshots
154: Home
155: Home
156: Home
157: Downloads
158: Home
159: Member Screenshots
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Home
163: Community Forums
164: Home
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: Home
169: News Archive
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Dresden Museum
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Walter
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 09, 2010
Posts: 618
Location: Arnhem
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:44 pm
Post subject: Dresden Museum

On Oktober 13 the Dresden Museum will have an open day
The Museum itself is not that good ,but what is very interesting is ,that the Vehicle storages will also be open
www.albertstadt.sachse...milit.html
( german only )

Walter
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:32 am
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

If someone will be there I'm looking for good photos of:

SU-85 based ARV
ISU-152 based ARV
ZSU-57-2
Luna rocket launcher
M56 Scorpion converted into a driver's training vehicle

Thanks

Rafał
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

I would be very interested in any pictures, or just an info update, on this - which is supposed to be at the Dresden Military History Museum:
www.hartziel.de/index....nnover.htm

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

Somewhere they should also have the Lancia 1Z and Citroen armoured cars recovered from Afghanistan. The Citroen is a unique piece worldwide, the Lancia is one of only two (the other is in Trieste)

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:08 am
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

I would be very interested in tank registration-, serialnumbers, tactical nrs etc. Below is what I know about tanks in the Dresden museum. Unfortunately it is not possible for me to go.

Chieftain mk. GBR
Comet mk. GBR
IS-2 m1944 SUN in museum or town?
Leopard 1 DEU 0-serie hull with one of the six prototype ,II arbeitsgruppe B turrets
Leopard 1A1A2 DEU
Leopard 1A4 DEU
M 47 DEU
M 48 DEU std, depot
M 48 DEU std, depot
M 48 DEU
PzKpfw IV ausf.H/J DEU, former Saumur (FRA)
T-34/85
T-34/85 std, depot
T-34/85 std, depot
T-34/85
T-54 DDR
T-55 DDR
T-55AM2 DDR std, depot
T-55AM2 DDR
T-72 DDR std, depot
T-72M DDR
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

this is what I have for the Dresden Panzer IV :

PzKpfw. IV Ausf. H ; Fahrgestell Number 86416 from Krupp AG/Essen. The restoration was stopped some years ago and it's not planned to continue yet (source : Falk Springer). The Dresden Panzer IV came from Saumur, which obtained it from one of “Etablissement Technique de Bourges” fire ranges. The gun tube was minus the muzzle break and disconnected from the turret (source : Rudi Schoeters)

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Tichenor
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Dec 06, 2007
Posts: 461
Location: Antwerp
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

Hi all

I've been at the Dresden museum this summer, also on a open day.
Sadly have to say, BIG disappointment Crying or Very sad . The museum isn't bad, just to modern for my taste. Armour is almost non existent, only a few pieces around the main building:
Leopard 2A4
M109
BRDM2
BMP2
M113
Gepard 2x
T72M
Leopard 1A4
ZSU23/4
BTR60PB
BTR50PK
LUCHS 2
Marder A3
Wiesel
Pzh 2000

Inside only one vehicle:
Universal Carrier

And only one of the storage areas was open to the public
Pictures of this all:
community.webshots.com...4724TTIVzw

There is a lot more in storage there, I took the liberty to look true the windows. Sadly it was to dark inside to see what's in there.

For me it was a disappointing day, seems they are going on the Belgian way; big collection, nothing visible.

Michel
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Tichenor
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Dec 06, 2007
Posts: 461
Location: Antwerp
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

- L.Delsing
I would be very interested in tank registration-, serialnumbers, tactical nrs etc.


Lesley
All the serials I found are on the webshots pictureabum , however most of the vehicles on your list weren't there.


- Massimo_Foti
Somewhere they should also have the Lancia 1Z and Citroen armoured cars recovered from Afghanistan


Massimo
The same here, no sign of them.

Michel
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

- Tichenor

Massimo
The same here, no sign of them.


Thanks anyway

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:48 am
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

Rolling Eyes it would not be funny to do what we do if everything was easily accessible.

That's what made my trip in Italy so fun and extraordinary, I never knew if I could see what I wanted to see there.

Every tank walkaround was a little victory against fate.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:27 am
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

- Tichenor
seems they are going on the Belgian way; big collection, nothing visible.

Michel


But in Belgian way we have at lest photos of the vehicles

In Dresden way - we still don't have any photos of vehicles in storage Sad
Back to top
View user's profile
VonForhud
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2010
Posts: 162

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

The Belgian way is like the Danish way. Keep everything locked up and away from public, let it rot in the stores somewhere.

its a damm shame.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

well, don't forget where we are, and when.

When you know that, for example in Italy, there is not enough public money to save some buildings in Pompei and when you see them falling apart, you may think that there will be no money for WW2 tanks.

In people's mind, even a combat-veteran Sherman will have less historical value than a historical city preserved for hundreds of decades and that needs some care and restoration. I don't think that there will be huge efforts soon in Western countries to preserve more WW2 or post-WW2 artifacts, it becomes too expensive for States that are highly in debt.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:45 am
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

Where there is a will there are the results:

Arenalen Museum (Sweden)
Muzeum Broni Pancernej (Polnad)
Lesany Tank Museum (Czech Republic)
Pivka Military Park (Slovenia)
Bovington Tank Museum (UK)
Vadim Zadorozhny Museum (Russia)
Victory Park at Poklonnaya Gora (Russia)

Lack of money is not a excuse / explanation.
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:33 am
Post subject: Re: Dresden Museum

Bov's got a lot of stuff rotting away outside, that they'll never do anything with & items in internal storage that there are no photos of, Cambridge Carrier for example (& their Oxford Carrier appears to be stored with its hatches open, so the dust can get everywhere.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 9
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum