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longo213 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: May 16, 2010 Posts: 20

Many of you already know that there's not that many surviving Skoda's LT vz.35, as you can see in Czechoslowakian tanks and armoured vehicles guide.

But the one inside tank carriage (page 4 of the guide) of the armored train Stefanik will be on display for six months in Railway Museum in Utrecht (Holland) since 30th March as part of "Track to the front" exhibition.

Because of that it's being "polished" in railway works which was mentioned in today's Slovakian SME newspaper. In their online article there was also an video about the overhaul which gives us great opportunity to look inside it's train carriage.
tv.sme.sk/v/26158/panc...echtu.html
(Click on the video, skip or wait till the short advert ends and wait to 00:45)
And yes, there is a whole LT-35 inside. Not just a turret mockup, its the real deal Smile

Doug_Kibbey

Very interesting. As my Czech is not now, and never was, what it used to be, what was the reasoning behind incorporating an entire vehicle within the railway car? "Field expedience"*? Perhaps it was just simpler to drive a tank onto a flatbed car and build an armored shell around it?

*Simplest and quickest way to get a turret ring and associated traversing/sighting gear and ammo storage onto a railway car?

Walter

Thanks for the info
I will certainly go there !

Walter

bialy-r

Pancierový vlak Štefánik - Armored train Štefánik

commons.wikimedia.org/..._hl.s..JPG

www.vlaky.net/zeleznic...roku-2010/

www.detektorweb.cz/ind...2&vd=1&PHP

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg8Fz6DzxOc

longo213 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: May 16, 2010 Posts: 20

- Doug_Kibbey

Very interesting. As my Czech is not now, and never was, what it used to be,

You mean Slovak, or? Smile

- Doug_Kibbey

what was the reasoning behind incorporating an entire vehicle within the railway car? "Field expedience"*? Perhaps it was just simpler to drive a tank onto a flatbed car and build an armored shell around it?

*Simplest and quickest way to get a turret ring and associated traversing/sighting gear and ammo storage onto a railway car?

Doug, the three armored trains (named Stefanik, Hurban and Masaryk) which were used during Slovak National Uprising were improvised designs. They were based on a standard transport carriages with a simple armor shell build around them. Unfortunately the metal sheets which were used for armor protection were from same material as locomotive steam boilers, so relatively thin.
By that time there were enough disabled or obsolete tanks with broken engines etc ideal for "recycling". And yes, fixing the whole tank on the flatbed carriage was the fastest way - for example Stefanik (named after M.R.Stefanik) was built in just two weeks.
But I can also imagine that the crews welcomed the fact that they can be covered by the extra armor provided by the tank hulls, considering the thin armor of the train.

Doug_Kibbey

- longo213

- Doug_Kibbey

Very interesting. As my Czech is not now, and never was, what it used to be,

You mean Slovak, or?

- Doug_Kibbey

what was the reasoning behind incorporating an entire vehicle within the railway car? "Field expedience"*? Perhaps it was just simpler to drive a tank onto a flatbed car and build an armored shell around it?

*Simplest and quickest way to get a turret ring and associated traversing/sighting gear and ammo storage onto a railway car?

Doug, the three armored trains (named Stefanik, Hurban and Masaryk) which were used during Slovak National Uprising were improvised designs. They were based on a standard transport carriages with a simple armor shell build around them. Unfortunately the sheets which were used for armor protection were from same tin as steam boilers, so relatively thin.
By that time there were enough disabled or obsolete tanks with broken engines etc ideal for "recycling". And yes, fixing the whole tank on the flatbed carriage was the fastest way - for example Stefanik (named after M.R.Stefanik) was built in just two weeks.
But I can also imagine that the crews welcomed the fact that they can be covered by the extra armor provided by the tank hulls, considering the thin armor of the train.

Slovak, ahh yes, another weak area for me. Wink

Thanks for the historical background, about what I expected, but thanks for making that clear.

Michel_Krauss

I need to go there also

except the Skoda there will be other military hardware also Cool

For people in NLD

www.spoorwegmuseum.nl/...front.html

TimRoyall

Thanks, I'll pay a vist too!

Michel_Krauss

There was a post at facebook concerning the event at the National Railway musuem at Utrecht

from the UK railway gun
www.army.mod.uk/news/25442.aspx

From Slovakia an armored train
zvolen.sme.sk/c/673103...ndska.html

I need a bigger lens for the camera .... Mr. Green

Walter

The Firefly wich was at the Barracks in Stroe ,will also be there
This was the one they used in a Bridge too far

Walter

Walter · Last edited by Walter on Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:32 pm; edited 2 times in total

Went there today ,here some pics
First the part of the Stefanik Armoured Train with the Skoda LT35

Walter

The L1 Houwitser 46cm

Walter

The Firefly from the Stroe Barracks

Walter

Centurion

Walter

Leopard I

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