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octo68 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Aug 06, 2011 Posts: 12

Hello everybody,

The Pz 39 Praga in Vugelles is no more visible (7561 with moked up gun). He has been replaced with M113 (74307).

www.flickr.com/photos/...hotostream

Greetings from Switzerland !

Doug_Kibbey

Thanks, OCTO68.

How is that M113 armed and are there any otter views of that turret arrangement? What is this variant designated (if you know)?

octo68 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Aug 06, 2011 Posts: 12

Hello Doug,

I am not a M113 specialist, I am sure that Massimo will help... the swiss designation is M113 S Pz 63/73, with 20 mm mounted gun.

www.flickr.com/photos/...7245004901

www.flickr.com/photos/...245004901/

Hope it helps.

Doug_Kibbey

- octo68

Hello Doug,

I am not a M113 specialist, I am sure that Massimo will help... the swiss designation is M113 S Pz 63/73, with 20 mm mounted gun.

www.flickr.com/photos/...7245004901

www.flickr.com/photos/...245004901/

Hope it helps.

It does, Thanks!

Massimo_Foti · Last edited by Massimo_Foti on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:15 am; edited 1 time in total

Good news from Vugelles, hopefully they recognized the historical value of the tanks and it will go to a better place. Thanks for the info!

Doug, yes, it's a 63/73; later on some were upgrade to the Schutzenpanzer 63/89 configuration:
www.flickr.com/photos/...9930412808

The 20 mm in the turret comes from De Haviland Vampires or Venoms that were either passed to training units or retired.

Massimo

Massimo_Foti

Last summer I posted some recent info on Pz 39:
www.com-central.net/in...chaffausen

Massimo

Doug_Kibbey

- Massimo_Foti

Good news from Vugelles, hopefully they recognized the historical value of the tanks and it will go to a better place. Thanks for the info!

Doug, yes, it's a 63/73; later on some were upgrade to the Schutzenpanzer 63/89 configuration:
www.flickr.com/photos/...9930412808

The 20 mm in the turret comes from De Haviland Vampires or Venoms that were either passed to training units or retired.

Massimo

My man! And that's interesting about being salvaged from Vamps and Venoms. Maybe had a higher ROF than most ground mount 20's. Either way, nice bit of trivia.

Massimo_Foti

As far as I know the 20 mm guns were reused just because it was a cost effective solution. The Swiss Army often try to make good use of obsolescent equipment.

Massimo

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