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Switzerland update in Vugelles
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:36 pm
Post subject: Switzerland update in Vugelles

Hello everybody,

The Pz 39 Praga in Vugelles is no more visible (7561 with moked up gun). He has been replaced with M113 (74307).

www.flickr.com/photos/...hotostream

Greetings from Switzerland !
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Switzerland update in Vugelles

Thanks, OCTO68.

How is that M113 armed and are there any otter views of that turret arrangement? What is this variant designated (if you know)?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:36 pm
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Hello Doug,

I am not a M113 specialist, I am sure that Massimo will help... the swiss designation is M113 S Pz 63/73, with 20 mm mounted gun.

www.flickr.com/photos/...7245004901

www.flickr.com/photos/...245004901/

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:43 pm
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Hello Doug,

I am not a M113 specialist, I am sure that Massimo will help... the swiss designation is M113 S Pz 63/73, with 20 mm mounted gun.

www.flickr.com/photos/...7245004901

www.flickr.com/photos/...245004901/

Hope it helps.


It does, Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Switzerland update in Vugelles

Good news from Vugelles, hopefully they recognized the historical value of the tanks and it will go to a better place. Thanks for the info!


Doug, yes, it's a 63/73; later on some were upgrade to the Schutzenpanzer 63/89 configuration:
www.flickr.com/photos/...9930412808

The 20 mm in the turret comes from De Haviland Vampires or Venoms that were either passed to training units or retired.

Massimo


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:15 am
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Last summer I posted some recent info on Pz 39:
www.com-central.net/in...chaffausen

Massimo
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:46 am
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Good news from Vugelles, hopefully they recognized the historical value of the tanks and it will go to a better place. Thanks for the info!


Doug, yes, it's a 63/73; later on some were upgrade to the Schutzenpanzer 63/89 configuration:
www.flickr.com/photos/...9930412808

The 20 mm in the turret comes from De Haviland Vampires or Venoms that were either passed to training units or retired.

Massimo


My man! And that's interesting about being salvaged from Vamps and Venoms. Maybe had a higher ROF than most ground mount 20's. Either way, nice bit of trivia.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:16 am
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As far as I know the 20 mm guns were reused just because it was a cost effective solution. The Swiss Army often try to make good use of obsolescent equipment.

Massimo
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