±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 819
Total: 819
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Member Screenshots
02: Home
03: News Archive
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Downloads
07: Community Forums
08: Photo Gallery
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Downloads
14: Photo Gallery
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: News Archive
20: Community Forums
21: Member Screenshots
22: Member Screenshots
23: Community Forums
24: News
25: Downloads
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Your Account
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Photo Gallery
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: News Archive
37: Community Forums
38: Home
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Community Forums
43: Member Screenshots
44: Downloads
45: News Archive
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Member Screenshots
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: News Archive
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Photo Gallery
60: Downloads
61: Community Forums
62: Downloads
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Community Forums
66: Photo Gallery
67: Photo Gallery
68: Downloads
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Home
72: Community Forums
73: Downloads
74: Member Screenshots
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: News Archive
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Downloads
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Your Account
87: Community Forums
88: Photo Gallery
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: News Archive
92: Community Forums
93: Member Screenshots
94: Member Screenshots
95: Photo Gallery
96: Photo Gallery
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Home
106: Photo Gallery
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Member Screenshots
111: Community Forums
112: Member Screenshots
113: Home
114: Community Forums
115: News
116: Community Forums
117: Downloads
118: Community Forums
119: Photo Gallery
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: News Archive
123: Member Screenshots
124: Community Forums
125: Photo Gallery
126: Home
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Downloads
130: Member Screenshots
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Search
137: News Archive
138: Member Screenshots
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Member Screenshots
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Member Screenshots
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Your Account
150: Community Forums
151: Photo Gallery
152: Photo Gallery
153: Community Forums
154: Member Screenshots
155: Community Forums
156: Photo Gallery
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Downloads
161: Community Forums
162: Member Screenshots
163: Community Forums
164: Photo Gallery
165: Community Forums
166: Member Screenshots
167: Photo Gallery
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Member Screenshots
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: Member Screenshots
174: News
175: Community Forums
176: Statistics
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Photo Gallery
189: Community Forums
190: Your Account
191: Home
192: Member Screenshots
193: Photo Gallery
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Downloads
199: News Archive
200: Photo Gallery
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: News Archive
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Downloads
216: News Archive
217: News Archive
218: Community Forums
219: Home
220: Home
221: Member Screenshots
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Downloads
226: Home
227: Photo Gallery
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: News Archive
231: Member Screenshots
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Downloads
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Member Screenshots
244: Photo Gallery
245: Member Screenshots
246: Photo Gallery
247: Community Forums
248: Statistics
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Downloads
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Photo Gallery
261: Home
262: Home
263: Statistics
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Member Screenshots
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: News Archive
275: Community Forums
276: Photo Gallery
277: Home
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Member Screenshots
282: Member Screenshots
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Member Screenshots
289: News Archive
290: Community Forums
291: Downloads
292: Community Forums
293: Member Screenshots
294: Member Screenshots
295: Community Forums
296: Member Screenshots
297: Home
298: Photo Gallery
299: Community Forums
300: Home
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: News Archive
306: News Archive
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Member Screenshots
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Member Screenshots
328: Downloads
329: Home
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Photo Gallery
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Photo Gallery
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Member Screenshots
344: Downloads
345: Community Forums
346: Photo Gallery
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Home
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Photo Gallery
354: Community Forums
355: Home
356: Community Forums
357: News Archive
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Statistics
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: News Archive
366: Community Forums
367: Home
368: Member Screenshots
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Member Screenshots
372: Community Forums
373: Photo Gallery
374: Photo Gallery
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Member Screenshots
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Photo Gallery
383: Downloads
384: Downloads
385: Home
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Downloads
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Photo Gallery
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Home
403: Home
404: Home
405: Community Forums
406: News Archive
407: Community Forums
408: Downloads
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Downloads
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Home
417: Photo Gallery
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Your Account
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Photo Gallery
425: Community Forums
426: Member Screenshots
427: Downloads
428: Home
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Member Screenshots
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Home
435: Community Forums
436: Home
437: Photo Gallery
438: Community Forums
439: Your Account
440: Community Forums
441: Statistics
442: Member Screenshots
443: Community Forums
444: Photo Gallery
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Home
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Photo Gallery
452: Downloads
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Home
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Home
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Home
463: Photo Gallery
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Home
467: Downloads
468: Member Screenshots
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Downloads
472: Home
473: Photo Gallery
474: Community Forums
475: Home
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Member Screenshots
479: Photo Gallery
480: Community Forums
481: Photo Gallery
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Home
485: Member Screenshots
486: Member Screenshots
487: Your Account
488: Home
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: News Archive
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Home
496: Downloads
497: Member Screenshots
498: Statistics
499: Community Forums
500: Home
501: Community Forums
502: Photo Gallery
503: Community Forums
504: Photo Gallery
505: Community Forums
506: Home
507: Community Forums
508: Home
509: Community Forums
510: Photo Gallery
511: News Archive
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Downloads
516: Member Screenshots
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Home
527: News Archive
528: Photo Gallery
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Photo Gallery
533: Home
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Photo Gallery
538: Statistics
539: Community Forums
540: Photo Gallery
541: Home
542: Community Forums
543: Treasury
544: Home
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Home
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Photo Gallery
558: Community Forums
559: Photo Gallery
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Member Screenshots
564: Member Screenshots
565: Downloads
566: Member Screenshots
567: Photo Gallery
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Photo Gallery
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Downloads
575: Home
576: Photo Gallery
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Member Screenshots
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Home
603: Photo Gallery
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Community Forums
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Photo Gallery
610: Member Screenshots
611: Community Forums
612: News Archive
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Downloads
622: Downloads
623: Downloads
624: News Archive
625: Community Forums
626: Member Screenshots
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Photo Gallery
630: Member Screenshots
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Home
640: Downloads
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Photo Gallery
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Member Screenshots
650: Community Forums
651: Statistics
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Member Screenshots
655: Community Forums
656: Home
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Community Forums
660: Community Forums
661: Downloads
662: Community Forums
663: Community Forums
664: Home
665: Member Screenshots
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Member Screenshots
670: Community Forums
671: Community Forums
672: Community Forums
673: Member Screenshots
674: Community Forums
675: Photo Gallery
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Home
679: Member Screenshots
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Home
683: Photo Gallery
684: Community Forums
685: Downloads
686: Community Forums
687: Community Forums
688: Community Forums
689: Community Forums
690: Community Forums
691: Community Forums
692: News Archive
693: Photo Gallery
694: Photo Gallery
695: Community Forums
696: Downloads
697: Community Forums
698: Community Forums
699: Community Forums
700: Community Forums
701: Member Screenshots
702: Community Forums
703: Community Forums
704: Home
705: Community Forums
706: Photo Gallery
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Community Forums
710: Community Forums
711: Community Forums
712: Community Forums
713: Member Screenshots
714: Community Forums
715: Home
716: Community Forums
717: Community Forums
718: Downloads
719: Community Forums
720: Community Forums
721: Community Forums
722: Community Forums
723: News Archive
724: Home
725: Community Forums
726: News
727: Community Forums
728: News Archive
729: Your Account
730: News Archive
731: Community Forums
732: Photo Gallery
733: Community Forums
734: Community Forums
735: Community Forums
736: Community Forums
737: News Archive
738: Community Forums
739: Statistics
740: Community Forums
741: Community Forums
742: Community Forums
743: Community Forums
744: Downloads
745: Community Forums
746: Community Forums
747: Photo Gallery
748: Community Forums
749: Photo Gallery
750: Community Forums
751: Community Forums
752: Member Screenshots
753: Community Forums
754: Member Screenshots
755: Community Forums
756: Community Forums
757: Member Screenshots
758: Community Forums
759: Community Forums
760: Community Forums
761: Community Forums
762: Community Forums
763: Community Forums
764: Community Forums
765: Photo Gallery
766: Member Screenshots
767: News Archive
768: Home
769: Member Screenshots
770: Community Forums
771: Community Forums
772: Photo Gallery
773: Community Forums
774: Community Forums
775: Home
776: Community Forums
777: Statistics
778: Downloads
779: Community Forums
780: Community Forums
781: Your Account
782: Downloads
783: Community Forums
784: Community Forums
785: Community Forums
786: Home
787: Community Forums
788: Community Forums
789: Home
790: Downloads
791: Community Forums
792: Community Forums
793: Home
794: Community Forums
795: Member Screenshots
796: Community Forums
797: Community Forums
798: Home
799: Home
800: Home
801: Community Forums
802: Home
803: Home
804: Community Forums
805: Community Forums
806: Community Forums
807: Community Forums
808: Community Forums
809: Community Forums
810: Community Forums
811: Home
812: Member Screenshots
813: Community Forums
814: Community Forums
815: Member Screenshots
816: Community Forums
817: Community Forums
818: Community Forums
819: Downloads

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Finnish Panzer III early
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
clausb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 146

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 8:25 pm
Post subject: Finnish Panzer III early

Anyone knows what the story is behind this early Panzer III from the Finnish Army photo archive? Did the Fins get any or is it from a German unit?

www.com-central.net/in...ad&id=2864
Back to top
View user's profile
ajmac
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2011
Posts: 37

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 8:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Finnish Panzer III early

Only that it is a Pz IV, odd main gun though.

_________________
Alastair McMurray
Lincoln, UK
..........
Loyd Carrier - Under Restoration
Back to top
View user's profile
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Finnish Panzer III early

The Finn's seem to have modified the early Pzkpfw IV with a 37mm gun. This could have been due to more 37mm ammo being available. If you type in search on this site, use the Finn word Tankki to get right to the tanks. There are over 8000 photos (that's where I stopped and searched!) and probably thousands more. Rick
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
Costas_TT
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 387

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Finnish Panzer III early

Nope, it's a III. The Ausf. B, C and D all had the small 8-wheel suspension. The A had 5 large wheels per side, the standard 6-wheel type being introduced by the Ausf. E. Since the leaf springs supporting the first and last pairs of roadwheels appear to be inclined, I'd say it's a D. The B and C had these springs parallel to the ground. Info from Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two by P. Chamberlain and H. L. Doyle.
The book also mentions the presence of Ausf. D tanks issued to Pz. Abt. z. b. V40 (Special Purpose Armored Detachment 40) and used operationally in Norway in April 1940. No mention is made of transfer to Finland. They could have been retained on occupation and other second line duties in Norway, however.

_________________
1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 909
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Finnish Panzer III early

Costas nailed it. My reference is page 32 "Standard Catalog of German Military Vehicles" by David Doyle. Prior to the torsion bar suspension in the Pzkpfw III Ausf. E except the Ausf. A, they had 8 road wheels per side. That is the 3.7cm gun mounted too.
Another source, "Achtung Panzer", mentions that in Feb. 1940 Pzkpfw III early models were handed over to NSKK for training purposes. Afterwards a few Ausf D saw service with Pz Abt zbV 40 fighting in Norway in Apr/May 1940, followed by service with same German unit in Finland 1941/42. Rick
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
ajmac
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2011
Posts: 37

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Finnish Panzer III early

It beat me! So much for recognition areas....

_________________
Alastair McMurray
Lincoln, UK
..........
Loyd Carrier - Under Restoration
Back to top
View user's profile
JohnPrigent
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 35
Location: Sussex, UK
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Finnish Panzer III early

And just to nail it down, that is definitely an Ausf.D to tally with the issue of that Ausf. to Pz.Abt.z.b.V. 40. Note the positions of the shock absorbers - Ausf.C had them arranged differently and Ausf.B had a pair of 4-wheel bogies each side, not the 2-4-2 arrangement seen in the photo.

Cheers
John

_________________
Cheers

John
Back to top
View user's profile
clausb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 146

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Finnish Panzer III early

Makes sense as Pz.Abt.z.b.V. 40 later went to Finland.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum