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Walter · Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

Should be a Saurer 4CT1D 4x2 Cargo Truck
Here is one more ,also swiss number
www.google.nl/imgres?q...0,s:0,i:80

Walter

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

Is it a 2.5-ton, or a 5-ton truck? The a 2.5-ton Saurer 1CR1D is visually very similar to the 5-ton 4CT1D. Bart Vanderveen describes the former (in The Observer's Army Vehicles to 1940 Directory) as basically a civilian model modified with a radiator brush guard, towing attachments, etc, to meet the military's specs and powered by a 65 bhp 4-cyl gasoline engine. The 5-ton truck had a 6-cyl diesel producing 100 bhp.
If you had a profile pic, it would be easier to tell, based on the length of the cargo bed. from this angle, it looks like it has the shorter bed of the 2.5-tonner.

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:14 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

Definitely not a 5-ton, more of a 2-ton

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

This one is a new acquisition. It's missing from the PDF:

ZSU-23-4 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

zemsi · Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Saurer

- Massimo_Foti

Definitely not a 5-ton, more of a 2-ton

I would go for a 2.5t. I took another pic in "better" angle
www.flickr.com/photos/...336047996/

The M+ number is most likely wrong. It belonged most likely to a tractor.

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

Bridgelayer Pz 68 in action:

Bpz 68 M-77884 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

This tanl is usually held in storage:

Pz 68/88 M-78073 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

Another tank that is usually not on display. It belongs to the Vereain Centurion association, who collaborates with the Museum:

Centurion M-78520 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

This tank was seen at Steelparade 2005 in Thun. I was afraid it was scrapped, but now it's in Full.

Pz 68 Leopardine by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Walter · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

Very nice camo !!!

Walter

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

This is AMX-13 used to be in Burgdorf, there are now two AMX-13 in Full:

AMX-13 M-78357 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

the_shadock · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

- Walter

Very nice camo !!!

Walter

I think that it is quite ugly lol, but at least it is original. Not sure that it would work very well on the battlefield, it would probably make the enemy laugh a bit.

P-O

the_shadock · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

they probably wanted to make it a "Leopard" tank?

Walter · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Full Militärmuseum

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I think that it is quite ugly lol, but at least it is original. Not sure that it would work very well on the battlefield, it would probably make the enemy laugh a bit.

P-O[/quote]

If the battle takes place in the local Zoo it is probably helpfull Laughing

Walter

zemsi · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Leopard Pz 68

This tank was a mascot for the regularly held Swiss Tank Competition STC in Thun: www.safc.ch/2007/stc/index.html

I first saw her back in 2004, see pic. Her name is "Leopardine"...

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