±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 283
Total: 283
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Home
09: Community Forums
10: Member Screenshots
11: Community Forums
12: Member Screenshots
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Photo Gallery
18: Home
19: Statistics
20: Community Forums
21: Member Screenshots
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Home
29: Member Screenshots
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Home
33: Community Forums
34: Downloads
35: Downloads
36: Downloads
37: Home
38: Home
39: Community Forums
40: Downloads
41: Downloads
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Home
46: Home
47: Community Forums
48: News Archive
49: Community Forums
50: Member Screenshots
51: Member Screenshots
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Downloads
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Member Screenshots
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Downloads
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Photo Gallery
78: Your Account
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Home
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Home
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Photo Gallery
102: Community Forums
103: Photo Gallery
104: Community Forums
105: Photo Gallery
106: Downloads
107: Downloads
108: Community Forums
109: Photo Gallery
110: Home
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Downloads
115: Home
116: Home
117: Search
118: Community Forums
119: Home
120: Photo Gallery
121: Home
122: Home
123: Photo Gallery
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: News Archive
128: Home
129: Home
130: Photo Gallery
131: Home
132: Community Forums
133: Home
134: News Archive
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Home
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: News
141: Community Forums
142: Member Screenshots
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Photo Gallery
159: Community Forums
160: Tell a Friend
161: Home
162: Downloads
163: Home
164: Home
165: Photo Gallery
166: Home
167: Community Forums
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Photo Gallery
172: Downloads
173: Home
174: Photo Gallery
175: Home
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Home
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Photo Gallery
182: Photo Gallery
183: Community Forums
184: Home
185: Home
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: Home
189: Community Forums
190: Home
191: Home
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Home
195: Home
196: Community Forums
197: Downloads
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Home
201: Home
202: Home
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Home
206: News Archive
207: Home
208: Home
209: Community Forums
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Home
214: Photo Gallery
215: Home
216: Community Forums
217: Home
218: Home
219: Community Forums
220: Photo Gallery
221: Home
222: Community Forums
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Home
226: Home
227: Home
228: Member Screenshots
229: Home
230: Community Forums
231: Home
232: Statistics
233: Member Screenshots
234: Home
235: Home
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Home
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Downloads
243: Home
244: Home
245: Member Screenshots
246: Downloads
247: Home
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Downloads
251: Home
252: Home
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Photo Gallery
256: Community Forums
257: Member Screenshots
258: Treasury
259: Statistics
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Home
263: Home
264: Home
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Your Account
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Home
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Photo Gallery
277: Downloads
278: Downloads
279: Community Forums
280: Home
281: Home
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
dogtags
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Posts: 42
Location: East Central Wisconsin
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:02 am
Post subject: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

I know of about 13 T-34-85's in the US and was wondering if there was any thought about creating a listing of all surviving T-34-85's. I know it would be a massive file, but very interesting to see all the survivors in all different conditions.

~Robert

_________________
~Robert Buettner
warmemorials.us
mvmwisconsin.com
www.facebook.com/mvmec
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:58 am
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

Would we be counting the ones still on active service?

I bet a few can be found, somewhere. Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:20 am
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

Sometimes I feel we should differentiate between "preserved" and "surviving" vehicles. For example, a tank in a target range, in the middle of a Pacific island or inside a sunken ship is "surviving", but not "preserved". In a way I would say that a tank in active service isn't "preserved" too Smile

Back to your specific request, a few random thoughts:

- The PDF format doesn't handle long list of data very well. It doesn't "scale", it becomes hard to read and to update

- There are so many T-34/85s around the world that the only way to approach this would be to focus on a specific area like "North America" or "West Europe"

- Eastern Europe is so full of T-34/85s that I wouldn't even approach that

- You may give it a try by yourself, it's easy, just ask Pierre-Oliver to provide you with an example of MS Word file and the basic guidelines we use to create the PDF

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:05 am
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

I can say that maybe in next year I will try to finish the register devoted "Russian T-34/85 medium tanks preserved around the world".
I worked on it in some years ago but in August 2009 I have stooped. To that time I create a register with 307 pages - over 600 surviving T-34/85 - and on that moment it wasn't even 100% finished.

In USA (data from 2009):

T-34/85 – Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum, McMinnville, OR (USA
T-34/85 – Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum, McMinnville, OR (USA)
T-34/85 – American Armoured Foundation, Tank Museum, Danville, VA (USA)
T-34/85 – Camp Roberts Historical Museum and Museum Annex, CA (USA)
T-34/85 – Threat Training Facility, Nellis Air Force Base, NV (USA)
T-34/85 – Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles, Nokesville, VA (USA)
T-34/85 – Patton Museum of Cavalry and Armor, Fort Knox, KY (USA)
T-34/85 – Jacques Littlefield Collection, Portola, CA (USA)
T-34/85 – Aberdeen U.S. Army Ordnance Museum, MD (USA)
T-34/85 – Aberdeen U.S. Army Ordnance Museum, MD (USA)
T-34/85 – private collection, location unknown (USA)
T-34/85 – private collection, location unknown (USA)
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:47 am
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

I agree with Massimo, the only thing that could be done "easily" would be to list the survivors in Western Europe and in Nothern America. Other areas in the world would be far too complicated to deal with.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Patrik
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 19, 2011
Posts: 161
Location: Czech republic
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

Or make three lists T-34/85 tanks. Soviet, post-war Czechoslovakia and Poland T-34/85. Shocked
Back to top
View user's profile
dogtags
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Posts: 42
Location: East Central Wisconsin
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:07 am
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

- Massimo_Foti

- You may give it a try by yourself, it's easy, just ask Pierre-Oliver to provide you with an example of MS Word file and the basic guidelines we use to create the PDF

Massimo


Massimo:

At your urging, I have started a list. I have photos of over 20 T-34-85s in the United States of America already.

Once I get approval from some people, I will make it public.

~Robert

_________________
~Robert Buettner
warmemorials.us
mvmwisconsin.com
www.facebook.com/mvmec
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:46 am
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

Great!
I suggest you get in touch with P-O

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
dogtags
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Posts: 42
Location: East Central Wisconsin
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:43 pm
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

- Massimo_Foti
Great!
I suggest you get in touch with P-O

Massimo


Massimo,

An email has already been sent with the first draft.

~Robert

_________________
~Robert Buettner
warmemorials.us
mvmwisconsin.com
www.facebook.com/mvmec
Back to top
View user's profile
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

Tens of running 34-85 in Russia.
Also a lot of monuments (not running).

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
ajmac
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2011
Posts: 37

PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

What are the key identifying features of the wartime and Post war manufactured T34-85? 85s are very common and they appear for sale regularly in the UK but a friend has pointed out that most if not all of they sold aver the last few years on the open market have not been 44/45 production but post war Polish machines.... How to tell?

_________________
Alastair McMurray
Lincoln, UK
..........
Loyd Carrier - Under Restoration
Back to top
View user's profile
Costas_TT
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 387

PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Any chance on doing a T-34-85 survivors list?

A key identifying feature of the Czechoslovak and Polish built T-34s is the smooth turret casting compared to Russian built ones. Secondly, a number of hull fittings, such as headlights, attachments for wading equipment and the rear racks for smoke canisters and fuel drums are additional identifying features. Also most would have the spider web cast roadwheels.
A stock Russian made tank would have a rather rough turret casting and would be of any of the major types, one headlight (or one IR and one white light, depending on whether it is an upgraded tank), plus the '60s upgrade hull fittings - fuel transfer pump box, smoke canister racks and fuel drum racks - are different from Polish and Czechoslovak tanks. Roadwheels could be drawn concave, spider web or starfish.

_________________
1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum