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Auto-Retro Museum, Svente (Latvia)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:29 am
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Auto-Retro Museum, Svente (Latvia)

BTR-40
BTR-152
BRDM-1
BRDM-2
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2x OT-810
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:05 pm
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Nice little museum I haven't seen before... over crowded as usual.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:54 pm
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I don't think those are OT 810's. Those 2 German Halftracks look like sdkfz 251 B and 251 D.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:37 pm
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I don't think those are OT 810's. Those 2 German Halftracks look like sdkfz 251 B and 251 D.

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Hmm... some details indicate that both are converted OT´s... the "nose" of both is to broad for beeing real 251ers. And if I see correct the "b" has tracks without rubber pads , the D has welding seams were the rear end is changed ...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:23 pm
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You may be right and they've gone to a fair bit of trouble replacing/ replicating drive sprockets, idlers and upper hulls.

I wouldn't use track type as an indicator.

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For sure the tracks can be changed so its only a weak evidence .... but in most cases the postwar tracks are found on OT´s while the owners of original 251ers do their best to get a set of original tracks.

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The 2 hinches on the noseplate give it away as OT-810
a 251 does not have those
They also have exhaust on both sides wich indicates for the Czech 8 cylinder The 251 6 cylinder has only exhaust on the left

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:04 pm
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As I know this StuG III has completely new-made bottom half of the hull.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:12 pm
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Aha! Will keep those recognition features in mind, Walter.

Thanks for confirmation- still looks like a pile of work was done to make these OT 810's look like sdkfz 251. Would this have been done for the museum?
( if so that really makes me wonder about this collection- sort of Victory Museum east?)
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OT-810 (Sdkfz. 251 C), the rebuilt the Slovak thus was remodeled 5 pieces.
Because of the sale.
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