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Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

Bv 208 Prototype by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

- Walter

Any german vehicles in the museum ?

Not that many, but some rare vehicles like: Pz I A, Marder II, Hetzer, Tempo Vidal and a 3 tons Klöckner-Humboldt-Deutz

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

- the_shadock

so.. let's see what you were able to photograph on the M4A4 Firefly

I collected all my shots inside this .zip file:
massimocorner.com/afv/...irefly.zip

Please note it's very large, 700 Mb. It will be available for a week or two, then I will remove it from the server (because it consumes too much space)

Massimo

the_shadock · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

thanks, I'm already dowloading it.

P-O

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

That Sherman has in interesting story, it was used as test bed to try components during the Strv 103 program. I've seen pictures of it on a book, but I can't post them here due to copyright. You may try to contact Arsenalen's director to get copies of those pictures, since at least one is part of the Museum's display.

At one point it was restored back to look like a Firefly, but seems like some mistake happened in the process.

The tank also had splinter damage on the hull's right side, since it arrived in Sweden (before it was modified). Mr Karlsson would love to know more about it, to be able to unveil the tank service career before it was shipped to Sweden and hopefully understand where and when the damage was inflicted.

I wasn't able to see the S/N, but Mr Karlsson most likely has it.

Hope it may help.

Massimo

the_shadock · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

the serial is 16733, built in December, 1942.

P-O

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

Can we derive additional info from the serial? Do we know the manufacturer?
Is it possible that was converted to Firefly after the battle damages?

Massimo

the_shadock · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

the manufacturer is Chrysler (the only manufacturer of M4A4 tanks). I don't know anything more yet, but will try to get more information. Mr Karlsson already know the serial and manufacturer, as he sent me a photo of the manufacturer's plate.

P-O

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:28 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

- Massimo_Foti

Bv 208 Prototype by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

It reminds me of the Canadair Dynatrac. Is there any relationship between the designs or components, besides the general concept?

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

- Doug_Kibbey

It reminds me of the Canadair Dynatrac. Is there any relationship between the designs or components, besides the general concept?

I don't know. I wasn't even aware of the Canadair Dynatrac before reading your post.

In recent years a similar concept has been implemented in Singapore with the Bronco All Terrain Tracked Carrier:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ed_Carrier

Among other things, this vehicles was adopted by the British Army, even if they used Swedish vehicles in the past (including a few that took part to the Falklands War in 1982).

Massimo

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

The most recent evolution of this series of vehicles:

Bv 410 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Rikard_Hufschmied · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

- Massimo_Foti

Bv 206 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Ah, the old trustworthy "Plastic Can". Many a mile spent in it, our driver installed the mother of all car stereos in it (highly irregular) and there was a trick in heating your canned rations via an engine service panel ... which at least once resulted in a Spaghetti Bolognese explosion (you must never forget to prick a small vent in the can). Amazing oversnow capabilities, I once during the middle of Swedish winter jumped out for a quick relief behind a a tree only to find myself stuck to the waist in snow. Ah the memories Smile

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

Thanks for sharing your memories Rikard, including the spaghetti one Smile

I know for sure the Alpini (Italian mountain troops) have an high opinion of those Hägglunds vehicles.

Massimo

the_shadock · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

very nice pictures !! much better than anything we can find on the internet..

P-O

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Arsenalen

The light isn't bad inside the building, it only has a somewhat yellowish cast in certain areas. Yet I fund myself using up to ISO 3200 in a few cases, not many cameras handle that nicely.

I think Erik Gustavsson's pictures are pretty good and he posted a pretty comprehensive set, other than those, I haven't seen quality pictures from Arsenalen.

Massimo

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