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Not sure if it's been described here before, but I've just been to the Dutch historic collection of Air Defence equipment at Vredepeel in Holland. Very interesting museum with 3 PRTL/Cheetahs, some Patriot displays, lots of HAWK equipment, various Bofors, a US 90mm AD gun, 3.7 inch British AD gun and other small AD guns and a rather nicely restored M16 half track.

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

- L.Delsing

About 't Harde;
tThe artillerymuseum has 2 x M110, one of them a former Spanish one. The other one is NLD army. I was told the M109 and M110 from Overloon are back at the art museum. The second M110 was from the one at Overloon.

The MLRS which was at the Oirschot open day is indeed the former US Army one formely at the army museum depot. It has been modified to resemble a NLD vehicle and painted in NLD colours.

Regards,
Lesley

The former Spanish M110 is scrapped unfortunately. The former NLD M110A2 is serial FMY1392 r/n KZ-87-42

The M109 in the museum collection has serial 5619 1637 r/n KZ88-40

The MLRS is serial UAA00708, the name according to the plate inside is Carrier MLRS.

The M577 of the collection is serial C741NL, registration KZ-75-74

regards

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Today a nice surprise at the engineer school at Reek. A Leopard 1V (s/n 8681, r/n KU-91-07) at the parking lot (N51 43.709 E5 42.483). It is former mobilisation complex Heesch and dropped at Reek. The people I spoke didn't know why it was there, and what the purpose was. They told me that a lowloader dropped a Cheetah SPAAG, picked it up a few hours later and dropped the Leopard 1V here instead much to the surprise of the barrack residents Smile

It has the tactical markings of 4th platoon, 3rd tank, B- Squadron, 49th Tankbattalion but has also the markings of 59th Tankbattalion

Anyway, the more Leopard 1s survive, the better!

The two Pattons are still going strong here.

Also seen were one AMX-13, one YP-408 and the an YPR-765 (s/n SJ-0167) in UN colours which striked a mine in former Yugoslovia

Pictures are not that good, I didn't have a photocamera.

the_shadock

hello,

just wanted to let you know that Joe DeMarco identified this tank as being a T14E1 and not an M32A1B3 :

"For the sake of uniformity, in April 1945, the USMC requested 50 Tank Recovery Vehicles based on the M4A3 with HVSS. At the time, it was not known if the standard sprocket lifting drum configuration would work with 23 inch tracks, so Baldwin engineers replaced the drum with the boom raising sheave. In any case, in the Summer of 1945, Baldwin Locomotive and International Harvester completed 80 Tank Retriever conversions based on new production M4A3(105)HVSS Shermans pulled from the line at Chrysler. These conversions featured the boom raising sheave, and were given the nomenclature "T14E1.""

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

An oldie (october 2002), Leopard 1V KU-93-35 at the Domeinen in Soesterberg. It ended up at the Vliehors range.

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Not preserved but attending at a ceremony the following vehicles;

Leopard 2A6, came from the Coevorden depot and intended for sale to Finland

Tank was named ''Anubis'' and former 42nd Tankbat. Tactical number was A20

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Also attending was a PRTL/Cheetah. Were it came from is unknown by me.

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Visited the National Military Museum at Soesterberg today and noted the following.

AMX-13Au F3 r/n KN-70-14
AMX-13C&V KZ-82-13
AMX-13 105 KN-72-33 in colours of 103 Recce bat, B squadron
AMX-13 vci KN-64-66Centurion ARV KX-06-77
AMX-13 vci KN-09-5., in colours of 17 Armoured Infantry Battalion, Heavy Weapons coy
AMX-13 vci KN-68-55
Centurion KX-12-20, colours of 43 Tankbattalion, staff squadron
Fennek KY-87-01
Ferret mk.2 r/n KN-31-24, s/n 00-DA-52
FT17 (no s/n plate fount, it was in a German c/s when re-captured)
Halftrack KX-49-74
High speed tractor KX-88-18
Leopard 1V KU-93-94, former Soesterberg museum of technical troops, now outside entrance. Former 11 Tankbattalion
Leopard 2A6(NL) 83-KP-60, 42 Tankbattalion, A squadron
M106 mortar carrier KZ-86-01, chassisnumber DM1?
M110A2 s/n 1411 r/n KZ-87-65. This vehicle was delivered in 1982
M4A1(76) range wreck 30125829
MLRS fake number KZ-99-72, former US Army
PRTL SPAAG KZ-99-68
XA-188 Patria KY-90-44
YP-408PWGWT KN-90-46
YPR_765PRCO KY-63-24 white UN colours

Regards,
Lesley

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

And also visited the museum of technical troops at the Zeisterspoor in Soesterberg

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Noted this month at ‘’De Domeinen’’ at the Zeisterspoor in Soesterberg were the following armoured vehicles and some artillery guns
1 x 40L60 AA gun
1 x FH70 artillery gun
M113C&V KZ-81-27, tactical number C16
2 x M114/39 towed howitser, probably former 14 Artillery Bat
M577 KZ-75-20, 2nd battery, 11 Artillery Bat
M577 KZ-75-51, tactical number A213, 14 Artillery Bat
M577 KZ-75-85, 1st Battery, 11 Artillery Bat, named Panther
PRTL KU-79-00
PRTL KU-79-02
PRTL KU-79-04
PRTL KU-79-07 hullnumber NL35582
PRTL KU-79-08
PRTL KU-79-10
PRTL KU-79-11
PRTL KU-79-15
PRTL KU-79-17
PRTL KU-80-99
YPR-765PR.. NL1300DAF
YPR-765PR.. NL1997DAF
YPR-765PR.. NL2016DAF
YPR-765PR.. NL2039DAF
YPR-765PR..NSJ0713
YPR-765PR.. UN colours, no markings

The 5 YPR-765s with the hullnumber were used in some kind of modification testing. On the corners of the vehicles poles were welded. No VRNs were seen.

the_shadock

this is where I scratched the paint on a tow lug

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

A first noted for me today was a Leopard 1V at the storage area of the Artillery museum in 't Harde.

Registration is KU-94-26 with fahrgestelnummer 8674. It is located at N52 23.517 E 5 54.596.

It is painted in the colours of 43 Tkbat, A-squadron with the name Ardenner on the turret

Also noted was a ZSU-23/4 without radar disc. All Cyrillic markings on the in- and outside. Hullnumber is 902A815 which makes it a MMZ february 1969 produced vehicle

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Also noted today at the 't Harde training area is former Iraqi army T-55. Unfortunately the hullnumber was not readable anymore.

The ZSU-23/4 mentioned above will go to Leeuwarden Air Force Base as monument

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

The ZSU-23/4

And the T-55

Scott_Taylor

I think that's the radar dish for the ZSU-23-4 sitting on the ground in front of the vehicle to the left of the photo, with the fibreglass covering missing.

Cheers,

Scott

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