±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 393
Total: 393
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Home
11: Home
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Your Account
18: Community Forums
19: Home
20: Home
21: Member Screenshots
22: Community Forums
23: Home
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Home
29: Home
30: Home
31: Home
32: Home
33: Home
34: Home
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Home
38: Home
39: Home
40: Treasury
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: Community Forums
48: Home
49: Home
50: Home
51: Community Forums
52: Home
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Your Account
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Home
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Home
68: Home
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Home
73: Home
74: Home
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Home
82: Photo Gallery
83: Community Forums
84: Home
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Community Forums
91: Home
92: Home
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Home
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Home
115: Home
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Downloads
119: Community Forums
120: Home
121: Home
122: Home
123: Home
124: Community Forums
125: Home
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Home
129: Home
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Home
138: Home
139: Home
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Home
143: Home
144: Home
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Home
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: Home
154: Home
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Home
158: Downloads
159: Community Forums
160: Photo Gallery
161: Home
162: Home
163: Home
164: Home
165: Home
166: Home
167: Home
168: Community Forums
169: Home
170: Home
171: Home
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Home
175: Home
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Downloads
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Home
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Home
189: Home
190: Home
191: Home
192: Home
193: Home
194: Home
195: Community Forums
196: Home
197: Home
198: Photo Gallery
199: Home
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Home
203: Photo Gallery
204: Home
205: Home
206: Home
207: Your Account
208: Home
209: Community Forums
210: Photo Gallery
211: Member Screenshots
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Home
216: Home
217: Home
218: Home
219: Home
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Home
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Home
227: Home
228: Home
229: News Archive
230: Home
231: Home
232: Photo Gallery
233: Home
234: Home
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Downloads
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Home
246: Home
247: Home
248: Home
249: Downloads
250: Home
251: Home
252: Home
253: Home
254: Community Forums
255: Home
256: Home
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Home
260: Home
261: Community Forums
262: News Archive
263: Home
264: Home
265: Home
266: Community Forums
267: Downloads
268: Member Screenshots
269: Home
270: Community Forums
271: Home
272: Home
273: Downloads
274: Home
275: Community Forums
276: Home
277: News Archive
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Home
281: Community Forums
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: Home
285: Home
286: Home
287: Home
288: Home
289: Community Forums
290: News Archive
291: Community Forums
292: Member Screenshots
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: Home
296: Home
297: Home
298: Community Forums
299: Home
300: Home
301: Home
302: Home
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Photo Gallery
306: Statistics
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: News Archive
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Home
313: Home
314: Home
315: Home
316: Home
317: Home
318: Home
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Home
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Home
326: Home
327: Home
328: Home
329: Home
330: Home
331: Community Forums
332: Home
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Supporters
336: Home
337: Home
338: Community Forums
339: Home
340: Home
341: Home
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Home
345: Home
346: Community Forums
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Home
350: News Archive
351: Home
352: Home
353: Home
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Home
358: Home
359: Community Forums
360: Home
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: News Archive
365: Community Forums
366: Home
367: Home
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Community Forums
374: Home
375: Home
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Downloads
381: Home
382: Home
383: Community Forums
384: Downloads
385: Home
386: Home
387: Home
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: News Archive
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
silviop15
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 03, 2015
Posts: 415

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:32 am
Post subject: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

Does anyone know the current location of Fred Crismon's collection? Fred passed in 2009 and I was told from John Adams-Graf that it was donated to the Patton Museum.

I heard from David Doyle who spent over 200 days there said he never saw the collection. He also said that he spoke to Fred's daughter and they said it was sold at an auction and that she did not know who bought it.

EDIT: Let me elaborate more on this, Fred wrote the books US Military Wheeled Vehicles, and US Military Tracked Vehicles published by Crestline. He traveled to lots of museums and corporate archives to collect vehicles and documentation on MVs.

Anyone heard anything like this?


Last edited by silviop15 on Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:00 pm; edited 4 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Garry_Redmon
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 398
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:50 am
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crimson collection and research?

I've never heard of Fred Crimson. The Patton Museum did receive three pieces confiscated from the Fred Ropkey collection that were still federal property.

_________________
armorfortheages.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:59 am
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crimson collection and research?

- Garry_Redmon
I've never heard of Fred Crimson. The Patton Museum did receive three pieces confiscated from the Fred Ropkey collection that were still federal property.


Gary, Fred Crimson was (I believe) a serving officer in Armor in the '70s-80s time frame and took a lot of pictures, many of which can be found in Hunnicutt's books and credited to him. I am not aware of him being a collector of other than a boatload of interesting photographs, but I could well be wrong. He may have some pics in David's books as well, but would have to look. Typically, his pics are of vehicles "in service" or where ever else he managed to catch them.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
silviop15
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 03, 2015
Posts: 415

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:03 am
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crimson collection and research?

Just added more detail to the original post.

Off topic: I thought that Ropkey voluntarily handed over those pieces so he cold keep his collection private. Did they get shipped to Ft. Benning?
Back to top
View user's profile
Jstar
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 23, 2012
Posts: 27

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crimson collection and research?

Happy New Year.

I think you mean Fred CRISMON, not Crimson.

Don't know where his material is at a present, but like what he did.
Back to top
View user's profile
silviop15
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 03, 2015
Posts: 415

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

Yes my mistake. Fred Crismon
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

I have an address and phone number for Fred Crismon if anyone wants to call. He lived close by ..... send me a PM if you want the number..someone at his home might have some info...
Back to top
View user's profile
Garry_Redmon
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 398
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:54 am
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

Thanks for the info on Crismon. The Ropkey 8" is still at the Patton Museum. The rest is at Benning.

_________________
armorfortheages.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
silviop15
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 03, 2015
Posts: 415

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:01 am
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

- Garry_Redmon
Thanks for the info on Crismon. The Ropkey 8" is still at the Patton Museum. The rest is at Benning.


I did not now that the long tom (once) belonged to Ropkey. So the Long tom, the M114, what was the third piece they took?
Back to top
View user's profile
Garry_Redmon
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 398
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

I believe it was an M37.

_________________
armorfortheages.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
silviop15
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 03, 2015
Posts: 415

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

Interesting thanks.
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:09 am
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

I believe these vehicles and artillery were taken from Fred’s, to be stored away in some warehouse.













Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:12 am
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

I also think the term "Long Tom" usually refers to the 155mm M2/M59 not the much shorter 8inch Howitzer.
Back to top
View user's profile
silviop15
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 03, 2015
Posts: 415

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:44 am
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

The museum sold a running M47 after Fred passed, It was at the 2014 MVPA convention. Didn't he have another M47 patton inside?
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:01 am
Post subject: Re: Location of Fred Crismon collection and research?

back in 2006 Fred had a M48A1 and a M47 inside and the M47 outside, total of 3....those are almost to modern for me, they all look the same to me. My interest pretty well ends in 1945. I do have pics of all 3.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum