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WimD. · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:32 pm Post subject: Panther II ??

Hi,

www.warhistoryonline.c...21862.html

Mr. Wheatcroft owns the second Panther II (or parts) ?
Would be great news.

Who knows more?

Regards,
Wim

silviop15 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Oct 03, 2015 Posts: 415

The only panther II I know of is the the Armor and Calvary Collection (formally the Patton Museum.) Maybe they mean the later production Panther with the machine gun port and the "chinned" turret.

TrevorLarkum · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Panther II ??

The only official Panther II is the Benning one - I'll be skeptical that they've found another until I've seen a picture. Alternatively maybe they mean Panther II turret, and they've got hold of the one at Bovington (bottom picture).

WimD. · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: Panther II ??

Hi,

Well I do not believe it either until I see a picture. But you never know what he found in Russia.
The Bovington turret is not a Panther II turret.

Regards,
Wim.

TrevorLarkum · Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: Panther II ??

In what way is it not a Panther II turret? Are you thinking it's from an Ausf F?

JeffStringer · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 637

The schmalturm turret was for the Panther F tank only. NO TURRETS were ever built for the Panther II tank.

Jeff

Walter_Sobchak · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 20, 2013 Posts: 122

- JeffStringer

The schmalturm turret was for the Panther F tank only. NO TURRETS were ever built for the Panther II tank.

Jeff

To add on to what Jeff said, the fact that no turrets were built for the Panther II is noted in the Tom Jentz book "Germany's Panther Tank."

JeffStringer · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 637

Of course!

I have studied the Panther and those two versions... the Panther II and Panther F exclusively and ALL you want to know is in that publication, along with Panzer Tracts.

Jeff

Rikard_Hufschmied · Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Panther II ??

From what I know none of the 3 Wheatcroft Panthers is a II. They are all Ausf. A. One Demag early (the one restored) with the slot/flap MG mount and two mid production hulls. One of the remaining A will be made into a D with components on hand and a new glacis plate (the one on it is shot to bits). So unless he has a number 4 tucked away somewhere? Smile