±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 180
Total: 180
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Downloads
09: Photo Gallery
10: Downloads
11: Photo Gallery
12: Downloads
13: Photo Gallery
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Home
17: Photo Gallery
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Home
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Home
25: Community Forums
26: Member Screenshots
27: Community Forums
28: Photo Gallery
29: Home
30: Home
31: Downloads
32: Home
33: Member Screenshots
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Home
37: Home
38: Community Forums
39: Home
40: Community Forums
41: Home
42: Downloads
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Downloads
46: Home
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Home
50: Member Screenshots
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Downloads
54: Home
55: Home
56: Home
57: Home
58: Photo Gallery
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Home
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Statistics
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Home
71: Home
72: Downloads
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Your Account
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Home
84: Home
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Downloads
88: Downloads
89: Community Forums
90: Downloads
91: Photo Gallery
92: Community Forums
93: Home
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Member Screenshots
98: Community Forums
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Photo Gallery
102: CPGlang
103: Photo Gallery
104: Community Forums
105: Home
106: CPGlang
107: Home
108: Home
109: Home
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Your Account
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Community Forums
120: Home
121: Home
122: Photo Gallery
123: Member Screenshots
124: Community Forums
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Home
129: Home
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Member Screenshots
137: Home
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: CPGlang
142: Community Forums
143: Photo Gallery
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Your Account
147: Community Forums
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Home
154: Statistics
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Your Account
161: Home
162: Photo Gallery
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Downloads
174: Your Account
175: Home
176: Downloads
177: Downloads
178: Home
179: Downloads
180: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:40 pm
Post subject: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

[img][/img]
This Hummer was part of 1/11th ACR's (B Trp I believe) while deployed to Iraq. Whenever a civilian vehicle would interupt a convoy and not leave the convoy, the drivers were told to ram them out of the way to avoid vehicle suicide bombers. This led to easy damage to the fiberglass noses of the vehicles. Since the Iraqi army was being "demilitarized", many of their tanks cannon barrels were being torched off the tanks. A smart use for these homeless barrels was to weld them to the front of the Hummers as new bumpers for Ramming purposes. The soldier told be the body of the vehicle would buckle before that tube would bend.
This Up-armored HUmmer has an M240B MG mounted up top,(out of view) along with the crews weapons which are spread across the hood for a pre-movement inspection. This would also be done after a movement to ensure nothing was lost. There appears to be 2 M4 Carbines on the left, a 240B MG across the windshield, a M249 SAW in the middle of the hood, and two M16A2's on the right of the hood.
Orange cones were for impromtu road blocks/inspection. The tape over the turn signals was to change the night time look of the Hummers coming down the road, as to try and fool the insurgents. Didn't work since you could tell the Hummers distinctive sound a ways off and they always rode in small convoys. I'm sure the crew would rather have been in their M1 but this is what they got.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Dirk
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 115
Location: South Africa
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:47 pm
Post subject: Re: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

Interesting photo - thanks for posting Smile

Correct me if I'm wrong - Shotgun shells to the right ?

What's troops in the field saying about the M240 ?

Best regards

Dirk
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:54 pm
Post subject: Re: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

Shotguns were used but mainly by troops doing door to door searches. This crew had none. The 240B is a bad mo-fo! I have fired and carried an M60 back in the 80's, but the 240B rocks! When it cuts loose the noise along should scare the enemy away. Everyone I've talked to likes it. Pretty accurate as well.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:57 pm
Post subject: Re: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

Cool pic, interesting modification.

I can't help but wonder what the reaction of those same troops preferring an M1 would be to doing much the same mission in an M151A1/A2 gunjeep?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:02 pm
Post subject: Re: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

Jeff,
Any pics of the OSVs over there? Or is that just a long-standing urban legend?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:09 pm
Post subject: Re: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

The motorpool is full of OSV's right now, they never went. There was some scuttle-butt here about it before the deployment, but it never went anywhere. Insurgents aren't stupid, and they would have figured out real fast that those OSV gun barrels didn't shoot back, except with a laser and a puff of smoke. The whole idea of taking them was silly. It was bad enough that the mortar platoon had to take its M1064A2's, yep, A2's! While most of the Army has A3 models, the NTC, 11th ACR still has the A2's because we are primarliy a "training" post. Thats why we had M551 Sheridans until about a year and a half ago.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:26 pm
Post subject: Re: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

Thanks for giving us the ground truth on that one. That rumor never seemed to die...

BTW, I spent a night on Hill 781 during the Division Capstone Exercise (DCX) in 2001 - thats my one claim to fame!

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:39 am
Post subject: Re: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

Hi Doug! Hi Folks!

"I can't help but wonder what the reaction of those same troops preferring an M1 would be to doing much the same mission in an M151A1/A2 gunjeep?"

I don't wonder about the troops, I wonder about the Press and the American public. During Vietnam, neither one of those groups cared about any of us.
Strange how times have changed. I think the current group of troopers have General Abrams to thank for a lot of that change other wise it's just possible the M151 would be over there.

My 2 cents,
Sgt, Scouts Out! Neutral
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:14 pm
Post subject: Re: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

- Roy_A_Lingle
I don't wonder about the troops, I wonder about the Press and the American public. During Vietnam, neither one of those groups cared about any of us.


Roy,
I'm not convinced the press cares about the troops now, apart from how any bad news is good news when you want a catchy headline. Not that I advocate a return the the M151, but if better equipment comes from closer scrutiny, I suppose their motives can be overlooked.

Color me "cynical"....
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:20 pm
Post subject: Re: HUMMVEE tank barrel bumper

[img][/img]
This would be the result of no tank barrell bumper when ramming a vehicle out of your way. A 1/11th mortar platoon Hummer fender that didn't fare to well after only minor contact. Those brush guards are only good for brush, anything else and the bend like a pretzel.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum