±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 546
Total: 546
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Home
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Member Screenshots
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Member Screenshots
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: News Archive
25: Photo Gallery
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Home
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: News Archive
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Home
40: Photo Gallery
41: Community Forums
42: Photo Gallery
43: Photo Gallery
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Photo Gallery
56: Member Screenshots
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Photo Gallery
65: Community Forums
66: Home
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Home
73: Home
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Photo Gallery
80: Home
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Downloads
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Home
90: Home
91: Home
92: Home
93: Home
94: Home
95: Home
96: Home
97: Home
98: Home
99: Home
100: Home
101: Home
102: Home
103: Home
104: Home
105: Home
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Home
109: Home
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Downloads
115: Home
116: Photo Gallery
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Photo Gallery
123: Photo Gallery
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Home
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Statistics
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Photo Gallery
135: Home
136: Home
137: Home
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Photo Gallery
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Home
146: Photo Gallery
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Photo Gallery
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Photo Gallery
161: Home
162: Photo Gallery
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Photo Gallery
170: Community Forums
171: Member Screenshots
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Home
181: Community Forums
182: Home
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Member Screenshots
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Your Account
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Photo Gallery
194: Community Forums
195: Statistics
196: Community Forums
197: Home
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Home
203: Home
204: Home
205: Home
206: Home
207: Home
208: Home
209: News Archive
210: Member Screenshots
211: Community Forums
212: Member Screenshots
213: Member Screenshots
214: Downloads
215: Community Forums
216: Home
217: Home
218: Home
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Members List
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Home
225: Community Forums
226: Home
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Tell a Friend
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Photo Gallery
233: Home
234: Home
235: Community Forums
236: Member Screenshots
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Photo Gallery
240: Home
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Home
244: Community Forums
245: Member Screenshots
246: Community Forums
247: Home
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Photo Gallery
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Home
263: Home
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Home
269: Community Forums
270: Home
271: Photo Gallery
272: Community Forums
273: Home
274: Photo Gallery
275: Downloads
276: Photo Gallery
277: Photo Gallery
278: Home
279: Home
280: Community Forums
281: Home
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: Home
285: Community Forums
286: Downloads
287: Downloads
288: Photo Gallery
289: Downloads
290: Member Screenshots
291: Home
292: Home
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: Home
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Home
299: Community Forums
300: Photo Gallery
301: Home
302: Home
303: Home
304: Home
305: Home
306: Home
307: Home
308: Home
309: Home
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Downloads
314: Member Screenshots
315: Photo Gallery
316: Community Forums
317: Home
318: Home
319: Home
320: Home
321: Home
322: Community Forums
323: Home
324: Community Forums
325: Statistics
326: Community Forums
327: News Archive
328: Community Forums
329: Photo Gallery
330: Community Forums
331: Home
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Home
335: Home
336: Home
337: Home
338: Community Forums
339: Member Screenshots
340: Home
341: Home
342: Home
343: Home
344: Photo Gallery
345: Home
346: Photo Gallery
347: Photo Gallery
348: Home
349: Community Forums
350: Photo Gallery
351: Home
352: Home
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Home
358: Home
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Home
369: Home
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Home
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Community Forums
378: Home
379: Home
380: Community Forums
381: Home
382: Community Forums
383: Home
384: Home
385: Home
386: Home
387: Community Forums
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Photo Gallery
391: Home
392: Member Screenshots
393: Statistics
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Home
397: Community Forums
398: Photo Gallery
399: Community Forums
400: Home
401: Home
402: Home
403: Member Screenshots
404: Community Forums
405: Home
406: Photo Gallery
407: Home
408: Community Forums
409: Home
410: Community Forums
411: Home
412: Community Forums
413: Home
414: Photo Gallery
415: Home
416: Photo Gallery
417: Member Screenshots
418: Home
419: Community Forums
420: Home
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Home
427: Home
428: Home
429: Home
430: Photo Gallery
431: Home
432: Home
433: Community Forums
434: Home
435: Home
436: Home
437: Home
438: Home
439: Home
440: Photo Gallery
441: Home
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Home
446: Home
447: Home
448: Member Screenshots
449: Home
450: Community Forums
451: Downloads
452: Home
453: Home
454: Home
455: Home
456: Statistics
457: Home
458: Community Forums
459: Home
460: Community Forums
461: Home
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Member Screenshots
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Home
469: Community Forums
470: Home
471: Downloads
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Home
475: Home
476: Home
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Photo Gallery
480: Community Forums
481: Home
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Home
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Home
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: News
492: Home
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Member Screenshots
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Home
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Home
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Home
509: Home
510: Community Forums
511: Home
512: Home
513: Home
514: Home
515: Home
516: Home
517: Home
518: Home
519: Home
520: Home
521: Home
522: Home
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Photo Gallery
527: Downloads
528: Community Forums
529: Home
530: Photo Gallery
531: Community Forums
532: Downloads
533: Community Forums
534: Home
535: Home
536: Home
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Photo Gallery
540: Photo Gallery
541: Community Forums
542: Member Screenshots
543: Community Forums
544: Home
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :) :) :: Archived
Discussions about the FS2004 game.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  FSXFS2004 :: Archives

Topic Archived View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:02 pm
Post subject: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :) :)

OK, man, so, like........I been on the hunt for a reeeeaaalllly good miltary jet to tool around FS9 with, to burn some holes in the sky and make some serious tracks with when I get that itch. And, I dunno, man, but it's like.....well, no offense to the freeware developers but I'm kinda particular about some stuff. And for some reason, lots of these jets have stuff that doesn't seem to work right...must be a complex task, So, instead of gettin' all excited about every jet that comes along and looks good, I've been really putting some of the more promising ones through the paces to find "The One".....and man, I tell ya, thanks to a great tip from good ol' JG300-Lurps, this is IT for me!!!

It's the FSD T-38 Talon, and you can get it from this link right 'char:
library.avsim.net/esea...DLID=33097

I know she's been around awhile and lots of ya may have it already, but sometimes ya gotta point out these planes lest they be forgotten. So for anyone who didn't know about it, I'd be happy to tell ya all about it before you head off to download her!

Had a few criteria to meet, which were:

1) Coolness factor, of course.....gotta look good and be a beechin' plane,
2) Gotta install with a minimum of fuss. Minimum file manipulations and all that,
3) Gotta be available from a reputable source, and easy to download for others,
4) Gotta fly good, I mean GOOD......
5) Gotta have a VC, and lotsa detail and readable intruments,
6) GOT to be ILS-capable. This sucker's for all-weather flying and you never know what's under that cloud blanket below.
7) Gotta have stuff that works in any normal plane. I mean autopilot, spoiler, all that jazz. A VERY cool F-18 has a 'super spoiler' that acts as a carrier trap by bringing the speed down to zero in nothing flat. That's cool, but makes it impossible to use spoilers in normal flight. A real nice F-14 has no ILS indicators anywhere in the cockpit - go figure.

So anyways, coupla nights ago I was flyin around with Lurps and Drafty (aka "Hoppa Jr") and Hoppa.....Lurps says hey go get this plane...so I check her out, skeptical at first, and have been flying her ever since to see if she's really up to snuff on the above needs.

Well this baby meets those criteria fully. I mean, she's beautiful, cool, shapely and sexy.....she got a one-click install from an self-installing executable in the ZIP fle......she's from FSD and available at Avsim, so it's quality goods bro......flies like she's on rails, got a serious roll rate too, just THINK about rolling left and she's there ......VC is just as readable as the 2D panel, and offers better visibility than the 2D panel for landing......and her instrumentation is 60's vintage but accurate and capable, LOL man I had to learn her ILS instrumentation the hard way while landing in an unexpected blizzard (dumb me, I was doing a Britain hoplist with real weather, for this time of year).......this gal pulled my @ss out of that jamb with grace and style, SUUUUUWEEEEEEEEEEE!

Here's some photos and yak about the lil'sweetheart......

Like 'the Manolo" says, "Some pictures, they do not need the caption"......


I use the VC for landing, and for some reason I had an initial tendency to land WAYYYY nose-high....and when I let the nose down too fast, she scalded me with an authentic-sounding "BANG" from the nosegear, just to let me know she didn't like it.....but she's a tough gal and hasn't broken on me yet, and I treat her much nicer these days.


With the small wing area, I keep an approach speed of about 140 knots as per Lurps' advice, but she's got excellent brakes and accelleration, and can actually get in and out of some surprising airstrips. The animated oleo struts on the gear are cool, as you're taxiing along on rough ground the plane is stable and gently rocking, but outside view shows those little wheels busily bouncing up and down on the gravel....


I've put A LOT of miles under her wings already and this is just one of many refueling stops that've been necessary. Which is saying a lot becuase she actually gets fairly good fuel economy and I cruise her at FL150 at about 0.9 Mach. Here's me and the GIB takin' a smoke break between hi-speed legs.....


Here's the virtual cockpit......looks great, eh?? As you can see, the visibility over the nose is GREAT (probably why I'vebeen landing her so nose-high at first). This was an ILS approach, and the glidepath needle (vertical position) is on the left side of the artificial horizon (small white arrow), and the runway centerline needle (horizontal position) is the usal segmented line in the middle of the HSI just below that. I've found I really like this arangement compared to having both indicators on the same instrument....it enforces good panel-scanning practices, as opposed to staying fixated on just one instrument.


"So there I was....".......flying along at FL150, enjoying a nice hoplist over Great Britain with excellent (real) weather. Or so I thought........as I slowed and descended down to the destination, we sank into heavy cumulus and ground fog....okay, what was that ILS frequency and where th'heck are the needles on this thing........at FL100, we're totally engulfed by the gray stuff.....at FL050, the snow kicked in...intercepted the ILS needle and set up on final approach.....getting closer...closer......FL005 now.....where the hell is that runway....

It was at that point I noticed I was juuusssst a little bit below the glideslope.....and WHOAAA......I swear to gawd, out of the corner of my eye, through all the muck and snow, I saw a CHURCH STEEPLE flash by on the right.....and the top was above me.....YYYEEEEEEOOOOWWWW!!!!

Of course, at about this time, the periodic "FSHOST Server yada yada yada" thing came scrolling across the top of the screen...just what you need when you're sweating out the final seconds of a tight approach in mimums, LMAO!!!!

After a tiny slight climb and a few fractions of a second, I figured I had to be on top of the damn runway, so lowered the nose a bit more...STILL nuthin!!!....then suddenly..BANG....dropped out of the fog about 10 frikkin' feet above the runway, and dang me if I hadn't already passed the threshhold!

Set 'er down, hit the brakes, took this pic before turning off the runway, and went outside for a smoke...MAN I haven't had such an exciting time with a new plane like this for so long!!!!!!



A coupla caveats, and not bad ones at that:

1) When you install this plane, there's a "T-38 Paint Scheme Manager" program that gets installed in your Start->Programs menu. You gotta run that to get the extra two liveries, otherwise all you'll see is the default NASA scheme. This is explained in the README.

2) The autopilot is certainly 60's vintage, which means it'll do the job but isn't like the AP's you might be used to. However, I found that figuring it out (not hard, and Lurps helped me out there a bit) was kind of a pleasure. Gives the plane some unique character, and you get a little sense of accomplishment out of it too.

3) Haven't had her supersonic yet, just up to 0.99 Mach. Don't know if it's because this is originally an FS2002 aircraft, or if I haven't had her high enough, or what. There's an operating handbook for her that also gets installed in the program menu, just been havin' too much fun to read it yet!

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."


Last edited by JG300-Stoopy on Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:19 am; edited 5 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Hoppa
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 10, 2005
Posts: 583
Location: vernon BC
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:13 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

WELL THANKS BOSS,,,,you sold me,,,,,going to get it right now,,,hehe

_________________
_

______________________________________



-----------------------------------------------------
Many thing's in life are dirt cheap.........
"Dirt"
is not one of them.....
Back to top
View user's profile
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:21 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

Coolarino, Hoppa!!!!! Lookin' forward to makin' some tracks with ya!!

Might put up a little quick guide to the quirks on the A/P.......like I said, Lurps helped me figger it out, so am happy to pass any info along....think I'll look over the POH frst to make sure I'm not missing anything.

S!

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Hoppa
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 10, 2005
Posts: 583
Location: vernon BC
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:48 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

well just took her out for a rip and this is a definite to add to the essentials,,,,,,I love it,,,,,,took off from the sty,,,,,as soon as gear was up I punched it,,,,,did a vertical climb and a rolling loop,,,,came outa the loop ,hit the speed brake, flaps and gear and brought it in for a suuuuwwweeeeet landing like I'd done it a thousand times,,,,,,I love it!!!!!!,,,also dig the blue, grey camo paintjob,,,

_________________
_

______________________________________



-----------------------------------------------------
Many thing's in life are dirt cheap.........
"Dirt"
is not one of them.....
Back to top
View user's profile
{92}Warhawk
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2004
Posts: 430
Location: In the clouds
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:57 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

WOW!! thats a keeper!!! thanks for the heads up stoopy!

_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Kitform
Bar Maid

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 22, 2005
Posts: 2011
Location: Cleveland. UK.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:54 am
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

You sold me...:) Downloading now...
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Holmes
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 211
Location: Straight Outta Jersey
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:42 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

well SUUUUUUWWWWWWEEEEEEE!

I've always had a thing for the T-38, always thought it was a little too good for a trainer, lol we should get someone with painting skills to make a JG300 livery for this sucker

i'll download her when i get off work, but yea man looks awesome...

- JG300-Stoopy
3) Haven't had her supersonic yet, just up to 0.99 Mach. Don't know if it's because this is originally an FS2002 aircraft, or if I haven't had her high enough, or what. There's an operating handbook for her that also gets installed in the program menu, just been havin' too much fun to read it yet!


as for your supersonic attempt...were you straight and level? or diving and still couldnt get it? i know it's supposed to be supersonic on it's own, but hey, every bit helps

plus maybe the mach indicatr is just off, if you hit 660 knots on the airspeed indicator though that should put you over it

also, damn man, ILS approaches, reflueing, etc, etc, one day stoop i'mma have to find you on FS9 and have you teach me something about all that hehe

~S~

_________________
-Holmes
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Guest






PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:22 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

Well I did a little research and found a couple of things......

The T-38 performance specs I've found list a top speed of Mach 1.08. So, heck I can give up that 0.09 mach.

Found reference to an "afterburner" key.....man alive, learn something new every day, IS there such a thing in FS9? What key is it, anyone know?

Also.....I didn't think this autopilot could be slaved to the GPS, but in mid-flight last night, I switched from another plane (that was on A/P slaved to GPS route) into the T-38 and it was following the GPS, even circled over the destination when it got there. There's just no "Nav/GPS" switch to be found anywhere on the panel(s). Guess the crew chief didn't want to drill any holes in the nice vintage cockpit.

Is there an FS9 key command that does the same thing?

And Holmes.....hehe refuleing is easy, pull up next to the gas pump, set the brakes, and shut your engines off. Fuel tanks fill right up! And I can show you just enough about ILS approaches to be dangerous, lol!!!
Back to top
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:26 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

D'oh! The nimrod that posted that last bit -- yeah that was me......

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
BooRay
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 06, 2005
Posts: 144
Location: Des Moines, IA
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:56 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

I might add that there are some cool add ons for this aircraft too.

One you can update your panels and guages and that adds a slot on your throttle control for after burners. The effects package also gives you an after burner glow and some other sound effects.

Also, I updated my sounds for the whoom of the engines firing and the wind effects in canopy and other effective sounds for the T-38.

Last I have 4 repaints of this bird in my collection including, Thunderbirds, Tiger and 2 more I can remember off the top of my head.

I have the zip files for the addons if you want those names on AVSIM. I just did a search there and added them. They work fine for me so far
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:35 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

Thanks Boo! I was eyeing some of that stuff, and shied away form it only becuase I didn't want to mess with a good thing....or even start talking about more files, lord knows the Saus'r probably about ready to make me walk the plank if I suggest too much more....:D

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Holmes
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 211
Location: Straight Outta Jersey
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:36 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

- Anonymous
And Holmes.....hehe refuleing is easy, pull up next to the gas pump, set the brakes, and shut your engines off. Fuel tanks fill right up! And I can show you just enough about ILS approaches to be dangerous, lol!!!



lol where's the gas pump...hehe some things i noticed though


and Stoop she'll get up to 1.08 Mach in a dive, but the Mach guage is all messed up, just go by the knots

it's about 660 knots for mach 1 under normal circumstances

but here's me lettin out a good ol' loud Phobbbbbbt over our airstrip



as for the guage inconsistencies check the next two pics and note the needle reading knots and the associated Mach number, seems a lil off to me Smile



and




and Stoop you forgot the most needed pic of any new plane, lol inverted at the Sty!




i'll have to check those other add ons and stuff like that out too, but yea this plane's a blast to burn up the skies with


~S~

_________________
-Holmes
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:09 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

LMAO!! VERY nice Holmes!!! When you can see the roof inside the hangar...that's an inverted pass baby!

Hey I was wondering....doesn't Mach change with altitude? I mean, the speed of sound is listed as 700-something at sea level, and different at higher altitudes, isnt it?

Dumb question from a propellor-driver......

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Holmes
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 211
Location: Straight Outta Jersey
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:36 am
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)

it probably does, cause speed always seems to depend on temperature and pressure, but since you got me thinkin on this one i google'd it real quick and it seems that it's more temperature here

but i think that's cause maybe they're taking for granted seas level

www.school-for-champio...ed_gas.htm

that's the link though about that...and it's easier to read, lol but i knew pressure had to do with it too (which is why it would change in altitude) so here's another link although it's kinda worse so i'll quote the part i was looking for, it's the last entry on this page:

www.eng-tips.com/viewt...amp;page=1

- BrianR
The speed of sound also decreases at altitude and for this aircraft there is an altitude where the decreasing speed of sound curve crosses the increasing TAS curve.


which is basically saying that actually if the aircraft couldn't go supersonic at sea level it'd have a better chance doing it at a higher altitude because

1) the true airspeed will be higher since the air is less dense
2) the speed of sound is slower since the air is less dense

hehe remember that old thing where speed travels faster through like water than air?

if that doesn't sound familiar it's due to sound being a pulse wave

these pages explains that some more if your interested
www.le.ac.uk/se/centre...y/snd3.htm
hypertextbook.com/fact...kyDu.shtml

and this page here is a great site I use to convert every kind of unit immagenable....lol well almost

home.flash.net/~lorint...onvert.htm

hehe, kinda went wild and had some fun looking this one up Stoop, hope that answers you pretty good, hehe that's that engineer in me gettin all pysched up with questions like that

~S~

_________________
-Holmes
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JG300-Lurps
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 11, 2005
Posts: 167
Location: In back of the sty .... sighting in my Luger ....
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:25 pm
Post subject: Re: This frikkin' T-38 ROCKS!!!! THANK YOOO LURPS!!!!!!! :)


Ok guys ..I have my own story to tell .... and it starts like this ......

Ya see, the Boss Hawg needed someone to run him up to Vancouver
so he could meet up with his ... errr....ugh ... friend ...yeah .....

Soooo ...anywhooo ...after dropping him off for a covert liason .. Cool .. I had to bug out for KSFO to do som non-similar a/c tactical maneuvers
with the Navy F-18 jocks .....

Yee Haaaw Maverick ... we're going ballistic !



and settled into a nice comfortable mach 1.20 cruise at FL32 .... a cold Molson in one hand and little Elvis in the other .. ..



Anywhooo ... after the virtual flaming of two of the Navy jocks, with another hightailing it back to Miramar like a scalded rabbit ....
I decided to do a touch and go on the Navy's flat-top cruising outside San
Fransisco Bay .... just so they could get a good look at a REAL fighter
pilot .... Wink




and then it was off to Vancouver to pick up the Boss Hawg after his much
needed R&R .....

ahhh .... what a way to make a livin .... Mr. Green

p.s. - to answer the Afterburner question : shift F4 turns on the afterburners ... but you have to be at full Military power ..... if you check
the throttle window you will see the afterburner light come on .... retarding
the throttle a bit will pull it out of afterburner ..... kinda like in the real thing, because you have to advance the throttles around a notch at full
military power to go into afterburners .... keeps the pilot from lighting the
burners and sucking up fuel w/out realizing it ! With the burners on Mach 1.20 is no problem at altitude .. about what the book says for a T-38 .

Have fun with her fellas ! ~S~
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  FSXFS2004 :: Archives
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next

Archive Revive
Username:
This is an archived topic - your reply will not be appended here.
Instead, a new topic will be generated in the active forum.
The new topic will provide a reference link to this archived topic.