±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 488
Total: 488
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Downloads
11: Community Forums
12: Downloads
13: Photo Gallery
14: Downloads
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Home
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Downloads
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Member Screenshots
36: Member Screenshots
37: Member Screenshots
38: News Archive
39: Community Forums
40: News Archive
41: Member Screenshots
42: Member Screenshots
43: Member Screenshots
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Photo Gallery
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Home
51: Community Forums
52: Downloads
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Member Screenshots
58: News Archive
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Photo Gallery
65: Community Forums
66: Home
67: Community Forums
68: Member Screenshots
69: Member Screenshots
70: Community Forums
71: Member Screenshots
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Home
78: Home
79: Statistics
80: Community Forums
81: Photo Gallery
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Home
93: Member Screenshots
94: Home
95: Home
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Statistics
105: Member Screenshots
106: Community Forums
107: Photo Gallery
108: Downloads
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Statistics
112: Home
113: Member Screenshots
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Member Screenshots
120: Community Forums
121: Photo Gallery
122: Photo Gallery
123: Home
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Your Account
127: Community Forums
128: Member Screenshots
129: Member Screenshots
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Community Forums
151: News
152: Photo Gallery
153: Community Forums
154: Home
155: Home
156: Home
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Downloads
161: Community Forums
162: Home
163: Member Screenshots
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Photo Gallery
173: Community Forums
174: Home
175: Community Forums
176: Downloads
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Member Screenshots
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Member Screenshots
186: Home
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Downloads
190: Downloads
191: Member Screenshots
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: News
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: News Archive
198: Home
199: Photo Gallery
200: Downloads
201: Home
202: Photo Gallery
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Downloads
209: Member Screenshots
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: News
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: News
221: Community Forums
222: Photo Gallery
223: Community Forums
224: Downloads
225: Home
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Home
230: Photo Gallery
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Your Account
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Home
237: Home
238: Home
239: News
240: Community Forums
241: Photo Gallery
242: Your Account
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Home
247: Photo Gallery
248: Member Screenshots
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Member Screenshots
252: Home
253: News Archive
254: Photo Gallery
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Photo Gallery
258: Community Forums
259: Home
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Community Forums
264: Photo Gallery
265: Member Screenshots
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: News Archive
272: Community Forums
273: Photo Gallery
274: Home
275: Photo Gallery
276: Home
277: Downloads
278: Photo Gallery
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Downloads
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Photo Gallery
288: Home
289: Photo Gallery
290: Home
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Downloads
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Member Screenshots
306: Community Forums
307: Photo Gallery
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Photo Gallery
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Home
318: Community Forums
319: Photo Gallery
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Home
329: Community Forums
330: Downloads
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Home
335: Home
336: Member Screenshots
337: Community Forums
338: News Archive
339: Community Forums
340: News
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Home
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Member Screenshots
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Photo Gallery
350: Downloads
351: Home
352: Photo Gallery
353: Community Forums
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Photo Gallery
360: News
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: Downloads
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Your Account
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Photo Gallery
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Home
384: Member Screenshots
385: News
386: Community Forums
387: Photo Gallery
388: Home
389: News
390: Home
391: Member Screenshots
392: Downloads
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Photo Gallery
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Member Screenshots
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Member Screenshots
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Photo Gallery
407: Home
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Home
414: Downloads
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Supporters
419: Home
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Home
424: Home
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Downloads
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Your Account
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Home
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Photo Gallery
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Home
448: Community Forums
449: Member Screenshots
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Member Screenshots
454: Home
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: News
460: Member Screenshots
461: Community Forums
462: Member Screenshots
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: News Archive
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Member Screenshots
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Photo Gallery
474: Member Screenshots
475: Member Screenshots
476: Member Screenshots
477: Member Screenshots
478: Home
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Community Forums
482: Home
483: Photo Gallery
484: Home
485: Downloads
486: Home
487: Community Forums
488: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:35 pm
Post subject: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm



I found this vehicle (SN 2593A) among a group of M60's that are being prepped for hard target (Final) duty. She's already been stripped pretty bad, I thought it was a shame since to my knowlege only five of these were made for the Army. There is one at the 1st CAV DIV's museum. I am trying to post a picture for the first time so I hope this works.




I spotted this Sherman behind the North Fort Hood MATES site. It looks like a former range target, all the rubber is missing from the hull and most of the hatches have been replaced with plate steel. Numbers stamped on the front left hull below.

7118
C2156
D52644

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:38 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

- Joe_D


I spotted this Sherman behind the North Fort Hood MATES site. It looks like a former range target, all the rubber is missing from the hull and most of the hatches have been replaced with plate steel. Numbers stamped on the front left hull below.

7118
C2156
D52644

Joe D


Best numbers to get are any that may be visible on the rear tow lugs. The numbers you have are probably hull stampings - which generally dont help in identification unfortunately. Any chance you can get another look?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:43 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

Neil,
I can get to it probably this afternoon, When I was last there I remembered either you or somebody else said check the tow lugs. I didn't see any numbers but I wasn't dressed for crawling around. I'll bring my coveralls this time with camera. Any other areas you'd like me to check?

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:54 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

Usually they're on the face going up to the top of the lug. Not usually on the bottom. But they're often covered in rust or seemingly not there at all.

One warning, they often dont show up well in camera shots. Best thing is to just write them down or even do an etching with pencil & paper.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:15 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm



Here's a few more angles of it.


Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:42 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

[img][/img][img][/img]
This M4A3 Sherman at Ft Irwin is serial number 2938, one of the first 300 Ford built Shermans accepted by the Army. The rear tow lugs appear to have nothing on them, but the number is on each side of the rear, as seen in this picture where I'm pointing out the location. I recieved alot of help from Kurt Laughlin and Charles Lemons on proper ID of this vehicle so I'm pretty sure of the info. The USA number should be 3055898, not the 508867 that is seen. This particular Sherman ran as recently as May 2000, after having its fuel system cleaned, caberators adjusted, a new temp gauge added, and a plastic fuel cell from a Hummer added to replace the rusted metal one. However she hasn't started or moved since I got here in Aug 02, there are no funds for operation.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:29 pm
Post subject: I have the Serial Number

Here is the serial number for the 105 Sherman. It is very visible in the picture. Just in case it can't be seen, the number is #73274.





Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:05 pm
Post subject: Re: I have the Serial Number - Kurt!

- Joe_D
Here is the serial number for the 105 Sherman. It is very visible in the picture. Just in case it can't be seen, the number is #73274.


Okay, now we just need Kurt to chime in!

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:19 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

Kurts the man on Shermans alright. The M74 TRV here at Irwin has clear tow hook markings like those as well, its number is 74159 but was built to late for the war effort. Maybe this one at Hood falls into the same catagory?

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
toadmanstankpictures
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 704

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:27 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

- SFC_Jeff_Button

This M4A3 Sherman at Ft Irwin is serial number 2938, one of the first 300 Ford built Shermans accepted by the Army. The rear tow lugs appear to have nothing on them, but the number is on each side of the rear, as seen in this picture where I'm pointing out the location. I recieved alot of help from Kurt Laughlin and Charles Lemons on proper ID of this vehicle so I'm pretty sure of the info. The USA number should be 3055898, not the 508867 that is seen. This particular Sherman ran as recently as May 2000, after having its fuel system cleaned, caberators adjusted, a new temp gauge added, and a plastic fuel cell from a Hummer added to replace the rusted metal one. However she hasn't started or moved since I got here in Aug 02, there are no funds for operation.


Jeff,
Are there any other Shermans on display at Ft. Irwin? Also, how difficult is it for the general public to get on post and visit the museum? I'm trying to con my wife into letting me make another road trip down to So Cal for more picture taking later this spring and would like to check the museum out if possible.

_________________
Chris "toadman" Hughes
www.toadmanstankpictures.com
www.cafepress.com/toad...ksandstuff
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:48 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

- toadmanstankpictures
Jeff,
Are there any other Shermans on display at Ft. Irwin? Also, how difficult is it for the general public to get on post and visit the museum? I'm trying to con my wife into letting me make another road trip down to So Cal for more picture taking later this spring and would like to check the museum out if possible.


Chris,
If you make it down, be sure to give me a holler. Think you might get to San Diego?

Here's one of my pics of "Betsy" at Ft. Irwin...I have a couple of the interior, too.
D.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
toadmanstankpictures
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 704

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:38 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

- Doug_Kibbey
- toadmanstankpictures
Jeff,
Are there any other Shermans on display at Ft. Irwin? Also, how difficult is it for the general public to get on post and visit the museum? I'm trying to con my wife into letting me make another road trip down to So Cal for more picture taking later this spring and would like to check the museum out if possible.


Chris,
If you make it down, be sure to give me a holler. Think you might get to San Diego?

Here's one of my pics of "Betsy" at Ft. Irwin...I have a couple of the interior, too.
D.

Doug,
Nice pic. There aren't any M4A3(75) up here. I really need to shoot this vehicle for an upcoming project or two.

If I can make it down south, I'm sure I'll be able to hit San Diego. Everything is very preliminary right now. I still have to let my wife know that I'm even contemplating this trip. Laughing Laughing

_________________
Chris "toadman" Hughes
www.toadmanstankpictures.com
www.cafepress.com/toad...ksandstuff
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum