±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 1206
Total: 1206
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Member Screenshots
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Home
06: News Archive
07: News Archive
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Community Forums
11: News Archive
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Member Screenshots
16: Home
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Photo Gallery
20: Photo Gallery
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Member Screenshots
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: News Archive
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Photo Gallery
32: Home
33: Community Forums
34: Photo Gallery
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Home
39: Home
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Home
44: Photo Gallery
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Home
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Home
58: News
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Community Forums
62: News Archive
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Community Forums
66: Home
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Photo Gallery
72: Photo Gallery
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Member Screenshots
76: Home
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: Home
84: News Archive
85: Photo Gallery
86: Statistics
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Home
91: Home
92: Community Forums
93: Home
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Downloads
97: Home
98: Home
99: Downloads
100: Home
101: Home
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Downloads
110: Community Forums
111: Home
112: Community Forums
113: Statistics
114: Community Forums
115: Home
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Downloads
125: Community Forums
126: Member Screenshots
127: Home
128: News Archive
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Photo Gallery
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: News Archive
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Home
138: Photo Gallery
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Photo Gallery
144: Downloads
145: Photo Gallery
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Statistics
151: Community Forums
152: Photo Gallery
153: Home
154: Community Forums
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Downloads
160: News
161: Home
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: Community Forums
169: Home
170: Photo Gallery
171: Home
172: Home
173: Photo Gallery
174: Home
175: Community Forums
176: Member Screenshots
177: Home
178: Home
179: Downloads
180: Photo Gallery
181: Home
182: Community Forums
183: Your Account
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Downloads
190: Member Screenshots
191: Home
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Member Screenshots
195: Community Forums
196: Home
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Photo Gallery
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Your Account
210: Member Screenshots
211: Home
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Photo Gallery
216: News
217: Member Screenshots
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Photo Gallery
221: Downloads
222: Home
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Member Screenshots
226: Home
227: News Archive
228: Community Forums
229: Member Screenshots
230: Downloads
231: Home
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Photo Gallery
235: Photo Gallery
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: News Archive
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Photo Gallery
242: Community Forums
243: Member Screenshots
244: Home
245: Downloads
246: Community Forums
247: Photo Gallery
248: Home
249: Downloads
250: Home
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Home
254: Home
255: Community Forums
256: Home
257: Community Forums
258: Photo Gallery
259: Home
260: Community Forums
261: Photo Gallery
262: Home
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Home
266: News Archive
267: Photo Gallery
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Home
271: Community Forums
272: Home
273: News
274: Community Forums
275: Home
276: Community Forums
277: News
278: Community Forums
279: Home
280: Home
281: Community Forums
282: Home
283: Photo Gallery
284: Community Forums
285: Statistics
286: Home
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: News Archive
291: Community Forums
292: Home
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: News Archive
296: Home
297: Home
298: Community Forums
299: Home
300: Photo Gallery
301: Photo Gallery
302: Home
303: Community Forums
304: Photo Gallery
305: Community Forums
306: Home
307: Community Forums
308: News
309: Home
310: Photo Gallery
311: Member Screenshots
312: Home
313: Home
314: Downloads
315: Community Forums
316: Downloads
317: Home
318: Home
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Home
322: Home
323: Home
324: Home
325: Member Screenshots
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Home
329: Home
330: Community Forums
331: Home
332: Community Forums
333: Photo Gallery
334: News Archive
335: Photo Gallery
336: Community Forums
337: Your Account
338: Community Forums
339: Photo Gallery
340: Downloads
341: Home
342: Home
343: Downloads
344: Photo Gallery
345: Home
346: Home
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: News
350: Community Forums
351: Home
352: Community Forums
353: Tell a Friend
354: Search
355: Home
356: News Archive
357: Community Forums
358: News
359: Treasury
360: Home
361: Photo Gallery
362: Community Forums
363: Your Account
364: Home
365: Home
366: Photo Gallery
367: Home
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Downloads
371: Home
372: Community Forums
373: Photo Gallery
374: Community Forums
375: Home
376: Photo Gallery
377: Downloads
378: Home
379: Community Forums
380: Home
381: Photo Gallery
382: Home
383: News Archive
384: Photo Gallery
385: News Archive
386: Home
387: Photo Gallery
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Community Forums
391: Downloads
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: News
397: Community Forums
398: News Archive
399: Home
400: Home
401: Community Forums
402: Photo Gallery
403: Community Forums
404: Photo Gallery
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Downloads
412: Photo Gallery
413: Home
414: Community Forums
415: Photo Gallery
416: Home
417: News Archive
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Photo Gallery
426: Photo Gallery
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Member Screenshots
431: Photo Gallery
432: Home
433: Home
434: Home
435: Home
436: Your Account
437: Home
438: Photo Gallery
439: Home
440: Home
441: Your Account
442: Photo Gallery
443: Home
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Home
449: Community Forums
450: Photo Gallery
451: Community Forums
452: Photo Gallery
453: Community Forums
454: Downloads
455: Photo Gallery
456: Photo Gallery
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Photo Gallery
460: Photo Gallery
461: Member Screenshots
462: Home
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Photo Gallery
466: Photo Gallery
467: Home
468: Home
469: Photo Gallery
470: Home
471: Home
472: Community Forums
473: Home
474: Home
475: Community Forums
476: Downloads
477: Photo Gallery
478: Community Forums
479: Home
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Home
483: Home
484: Community Forums
485: Home
486: Photo Gallery
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Photo Gallery
493: Home
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Photo Gallery
498: Home
499: Home
500: Community Forums
501: Photo Gallery
502: Home
503: Home
504: Home
505: Community Forums
506: Home
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Home
510: Home
511: Home
512: Photo Gallery
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Photo Gallery
516: Photo Gallery
517: Community Forums
518: Photo Gallery
519: Statistics
520: Photo Gallery
521: Community Forums
522: Photo Gallery
523: Photo Gallery
524: Photo Gallery
525: Photo Gallery
526: Home
527: Photo Gallery
528: Community Forums
529: Home
530: Community Forums
531: Home
532: Photo Gallery
533: Photo Gallery
534: Photo Gallery
535: Home
536: News
537: Home
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Home
546: Photo Gallery
547: Home
548: Home
549: Community Forums
550: Home
551: Home
552: Community Forums
553: Home
554: Photo Gallery
555: Community Forums
556: Home
557: News Archive
558: Home
559: Photo Gallery
560: Photo Gallery
561: Home
562: Home
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Photo Gallery
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: News Archive
569: Home
570: Community Forums
571: Photo Gallery
572: Photo Gallery
573: Photo Gallery
574: Photo Gallery
575: Photo Gallery
576: Community Forums
577: Photo Gallery
578: Home
579: Photo Gallery
580: Community Forums
581: Home
582: Community Forums
583: Home
584: Photo Gallery
585: Community Forums
586: Photo Gallery
587: Photo Gallery
588: Community Forums
589: News Archive
590: Home
591: Home
592: Photo Gallery
593: Home
594: Photo Gallery
595: Home
596: Photo Gallery
597: Community Forums
598: Photo Gallery
599: Member Screenshots
600: Photo Gallery
601: Community Forums
602: Home
603: Community Forums
604: Photo Gallery
605: Home
606: Community Forums
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Home
611: Community Forums
612: Photo Gallery
613: Photo Gallery
614: Photo Gallery
615: Photo Gallery
616: Photo Gallery
617: Community Forums
618: Home
619: Member Screenshots
620: Home
621: Home
622: Community Forums
623: Photo Gallery
624: Photo Gallery
625: Home
626: Photo Gallery
627: Photo Gallery
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Statistics
631: Community Forums
632: Photo Gallery
633: Community Forums
634: Home
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Photo Gallery
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Member Screenshots
645: News Archive
646: Home
647: Photo Gallery
648: Home
649: Photo Gallery
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Home
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Home
658: Community Forums
659: Community Forums
660: Photo Gallery
661: Community Forums
662: Community Forums
663: Community Forums
664: Home
665: Home
666: Photo Gallery
667: Community Forums
668: Photo Gallery
669: Community Forums
670: Home
671: Photo Gallery
672: Statistics
673: Home
674: Photo Gallery
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Community Forums
678: Downloads
679: Community Forums
680: Photo Gallery
681: Community Forums
682: Home
683: Photo Gallery
684: Community Forums
685: News Archive
686: Home
687: Community Forums
688: Member Screenshots
689: Downloads
690: Home
691: Home
692: Community Forums
693: Community Forums
694: Community Forums
695: Home
696: Home
697: Community Forums
698: Home
699: Community Forums
700: News Archive
701: Home
702: Home
703: Home
704: News Archive
705: Downloads
706: Community Forums
707: Home
708: Photo Gallery
709: Home
710: Home
711: Community Forums
712: Photo Gallery
713: Photo Gallery
714: Your Account
715: Home
716: Community Forums
717: Photo Gallery
718: Home
719: Community Forums
720: Community Forums
721: Home
722: Community Forums
723: Community Forums
724: Home
725: Home
726: Home
727: Community Forums
728: Community Forums
729: Home
730: Community Forums
731: Photo Gallery
732: Home
733: Photo Gallery
734: Home
735: Home
736: Photo Gallery
737: Community Forums
738: Community Forums
739: Photo Gallery
740: News Archive
741: Community Forums
742: Community Forums
743: News Archive
744: Community Forums
745: Community Forums
746: Home
747: Community Forums
748: Photo Gallery
749: Community Forums
750: Member Screenshots
751: Community Forums
752: Home
753: Community Forums
754: Community Forums
755: News
756: Community Forums
757: Community Forums
758: Community Forums
759: Community Forums
760: Home
761: News Archive
762: Community Forums
763: Photo Gallery
764: Community Forums
765: Community Forums
766: Photo Gallery
767: Community Forums
768: Community Forums
769: Member Screenshots
770: Home
771: Home
772: Community Forums
773: Community Forums
774: Community Forums
775: Home
776: Home
777: Home
778: Home
779: Community Forums
780: Community Forums
781: Community Forums
782: Community Forums
783: Photo Gallery
784: Home
785: Home
786: Community Forums
787: Community Forums
788: Photo Gallery
789: Home
790: Photo Gallery
791: Photo Gallery
792: Photo Gallery
793: Home
794: Community Forums
795: Home
796: News Archive
797: Community Forums
798: Home
799: Member Screenshots
800: Community Forums
801: Community Forums
802: Home
803: Home
804: Community Forums
805: Photo Gallery
806: Home
807: Community Forums
808: Community Forums
809: Community Forums
810: Home
811: Community Forums
812: Photo Gallery
813: Home
814: Community Forums
815: Home
816: Community Forums
817: News Archive
818: Home
819: Photo Gallery
820: News
821: Photo Gallery
822: Community Forums
823: Community Forums
824: Member Screenshots
825: Downloads
826: Community Forums
827: Photo Gallery
828: Home
829: Photo Gallery
830: Member Screenshots
831: Home
832: Photo Gallery
833: Home
834: Community Forums
835: Photo Gallery
836: News Archive
837: Home
838: Photo Gallery
839: Home
840: Downloads
841: Community Forums
842: Community Forums
843: Home
844: Home
845: Community Forums
846: Photo Gallery
847: Photo Gallery
848: Photo Gallery
849: Home
850: Community Forums
851: Community Forums
852: Home
853: Community Forums
854: Community Forums
855: Home
856: Photo Gallery
857: Community Forums
858: Community Forums
859: News Archive
860: Community Forums
861: Photo Gallery
862: Photo Gallery
863: Home
864: News Archive
865: Community Forums
866: Home
867: Community Forums
868: Statistics
869: Home
870: Home
871: Home
872: Home
873: Photo Gallery
874: Photo Gallery
875: Community Forums
876: Photo Gallery
877: Community Forums
878: Community Forums
879: Downloads
880: Photo Gallery
881: Home
882: Community Forums
883: Home
884: News Archive
885: Home
886: Photo Gallery
887: Member Screenshots
888: Community Forums
889: Community Forums
890: Home
891: Community Forums
892: Photo Gallery
893: Home
894: Photo Gallery
895: Member Screenshots
896: News Archive
897: Community Forums
898: Community Forums
899: Home
900: Photo Gallery
901: Community Forums
902: Home
903: Photo Gallery
904: Home
905: Photo Gallery
906: Community Forums
907: Photo Gallery
908: Photo Gallery
909: Home
910: Home
911: Home
912: Home
913: Home
914: Member Screenshots
915: Home
916: Photo Gallery
917: Home
918: Community Forums
919: Home
920: Downloads
921: Photo Gallery
922: Home
923: Community Forums
924: Community Forums
925: Community Forums
926: Home
927: Home
928: Home
929: Home
930: Community Forums
931: Photo Gallery
932: Home
933: Home
934: Community Forums
935: Community Forums
936: Community Forums
937: Photo Gallery
938: Community Forums
939: Community Forums
940: Downloads
941: Home
942: Community Forums
943: Downloads
944: Home
945: Home
946: Community Forums
947: Home
948: Home
949: Photo Gallery
950: Community Forums
951: Photo Gallery
952: Community Forums
953: Home
954: Home
955: Member Screenshots
956: Photo Gallery
957: Community Forums
958: Home
959: Community Forums
960: Home
961: Home
962: Community Forums
963: Your Account
964: Home
965: Home
966: Community Forums
967: News Archive
968: Member Screenshots
969: Photo Gallery
970: Home
971: Home
972: Photo Gallery
973: News Archive
974: News Archive
975: Home
976: Community Forums
977: Community Forums
978: Member Screenshots
979: Community Forums
980: Home
981: Community Forums
982: Home
983: Community Forums
984: Home
985: Community Forums
986: Community Forums
987: Community Forums
988: Community Forums
989: Community Forums
990: News
991: Home
992: Home
993: Home
994: News Archive
995: Community Forums
996: Community Forums
997: Downloads
998: Community Forums
999: Community Forums
1000: Photo Gallery
1001: Statistics
1002: Community Forums
1003: Home
1004: Member Screenshots
1005: Home
1006: Home
1007: Home
1008: News Archive
1009: Home
1010: Community Forums
1011: Home
1012: Home
1013: Community Forums
1014: Home
1015: Community Forums
1016: Community Forums
1017: Home
1018: Community Forums
1019: Photo Gallery
1020: Community Forums
1021: Photo Gallery
1022: Community Forums
1023: Home
1024: Community Forums
1025: Community Forums
1026: Home
1027: Photo Gallery
1028: Community Forums
1029: Community Forums
1030: Community Forums
1031: Photo Gallery
1032: News
1033: Community Forums
1034: Home
1035: Downloads
1036: Community Forums
1037: Home
1038: Photo Gallery
1039: Home
1040: Home
1041: News Archive
1042: News Archive
1043: Community Forums
1044: Photo Gallery
1045: Community Forums
1046: Home
1047: Home
1048: Photo Gallery
1049: Community Forums
1050: Community Forums
1051: Home
1052: Downloads
1053: Community Forums
1054: Community Forums
1055: Downloads
1056: Downloads
1057: Photo Gallery
1058: Photo Gallery
1059: Community Forums
1060: Community Forums
1061: Community Forums
1062: Home
1063: Community Forums
1064: Home
1065: Community Forums
1066: Community Forums
1067: Home
1068: Photo Gallery
1069: Photo Gallery
1070: Home
1071: Search
1072: Home
1073: Photo Gallery
1074: Community Forums
1075: Photo Gallery
1076: Home
1077: Home
1078: Community Forums
1079: Home
1080: Home
1081: News Archive
1082: Home
1083: Home
1084: Home
1085: Photo Gallery
1086: Home
1087: News Archive
1088: News
1089: Community Forums
1090: Community Forums
1091: Community Forums
1092: Community Forums
1093: Downloads
1094: Statistics
1095: Community Forums
1096: News Archive
1097: Member Screenshots
1098: Home
1099: Downloads
1100: Community Forums
1101: Photo Gallery
1102: Photo Gallery
1103: Community Forums
1104: Community Forums
1105: Photo Gallery
1106: Photo Gallery
1107: Community Forums
1108: Home
1109: News Archive
1110: Home
1111: Photo Gallery
1112: Community Forums
1113: Photo Gallery
1114: Home
1115: Home
1116: Community Forums
1117: Community Forums
1118: Community Forums
1119: Community Forums
1120: Community Forums
1121: Home
1122: Photo Gallery
1123: Home
1124: Community Forums
1125: Community Forums
1126: Community Forums
1127: Photo Gallery
1128: Photo Gallery
1129: Photo Gallery
1130: Community Forums
1131: Your Account
1132: Photo Gallery
1133: Home
1134: Photo Gallery
1135: Community Forums
1136: News Archive
1137: Home
1138: Community Forums
1139: Community Forums
1140: Community Forums
1141: Community Forums
1142: Community Forums
1143: Community Forums
1144: Community Forums
1145: Photo Gallery
1146: Photo Gallery
1147: Home
1148: Photo Gallery
1149: Photo Gallery
1150: Photo Gallery
1151: News Archive
1152: Home
1153: Photo Gallery
1154: Your Account
1155: Home
1156: Photo Gallery
1157: Photo Gallery
1158: Photo Gallery
1159: Photo Gallery
1160: Community Forums
1161: Home
1162: Community Forums
1163: News Archive
1164: Community Forums
1165: Downloads
1166: Community Forums
1167: Downloads
1168: Photo Gallery
1169: Photo Gallery
1170: Community Forums
1171: Community Forums
1172: Home
1173: Home
1174: Home
1175: Member Screenshots
1176: Photo Gallery
1177: News Archive
1178: Community Forums
1179: Community Forums
1180: Home
1181: Community Forums
1182: Downloads
1183: Community Forums
1184: News Archive
1185: News Archive
1186: Photo Gallery
1187: Home
1188: Home
1189: Community Forums
1190: Community Forums
1191: Community Forums
1192: News Archive
1193: Home
1194: Photo Gallery
1195: Home
1196: Home
1197: Member Screenshots
1198: Home
1199: Downloads
1200: Community Forums
1201: Community Forums
1202: Community Forums
1203: Photo Gallery
1204: News Archive
1205: Home
1206: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
German influence on French tank design
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Rikard_Hufschmied
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 458
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:25 pm
Post subject: German influence on French tank design

In my current quest to find out if the French 75mm DEFA and/or CN75-50 gun could be used when restoring a Panther tank (as they were more or less carbon copies of the KwK 42 L/70 gun) I stumbled over something very interesting that I actually didn't know and with my special interest in the Panther it's strange that I've overlooked it. I have to blame it on that my interest for French post war tank design has been marginal at best ...

The French didn't just copy/modify the gun, they were more than a little inspired by German tank design.

Early AMX-50 rear deck, I could have mistaken it for a modified Panther ...



AMX-50 on the move.



The Somua SM, more than a little hint of a Tiger II.



Somua SM rear.




Well, I still need to find out if a French gun could subsitute for a KwK 42.

Cheers,
Rik

_________________
Frustra Nate Vive Devincere
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:29 pm
Post subject: Re: German influence on French tank design

Hi Folks!

Very interesting! Smile

Is it just me, or does the track in that last photo look like it came off a Tiger Tank?

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JeffStringer
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 637

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:32 pm
Post subject: Re: German influence on French tank design

WOW! That is incredible! What a Frankentank! Smile

Nice pixs!
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:05 pm
Post subject: Re: German influence on French tank design

- Rikard_Hufschmied
In my current quest to find out if the French 75mm DEFA and/or CN75-50 gun could be used when restoring a Panther tank (as they were more or less carbon copies of the KwK 42 L/70 gun) I stumbled over something very interesting that I actually didn't know and with my special interest in the Panther it's strange that I've overlooked it. I have to blame it on that my interest for French post war tank design has been marginal at best ...

The French didn't just copy/modify the gun, they were more than a little inspired by German tank design.

Well, I still need to find out if a French gun could subsitute for a KwK 42.

Cheers,
Rik


Saumur has an AMX-50 - one of my favorites... I think this one has a 120 though... There was an AMX-50 with a 100mm gun, but not sure there was an AMX-50 with a 75?...









More info & pics on the AMX-50:

AMX-50 with 10mm Gun

AMX-50 with 120mm Gun

There's also the ARL-44 (right next to the AMX-50 at Saumur), which has been called the French Tiger, although its original design pre-dates the German invasion.







ARL-44

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
mike_Duplessis
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 236

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:35 pm
Post subject: Re: German influence on French tank design

Wow - absolutely frickin' Wow! Best pictures of the AMX-50 I've ever seen. I did not know the 120mm gun vehicle had survived!

About French armor being influenced by German designs, what first comes to mind is the turret from of the good-old AML-90 AC Those triangular corners always reminded me of the PxIII turret front.
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:01 pm
Post subject: Re: German influence on French tank design

- mike_Duplessis
Wow - absolutely frickin' Wow! Best pictures of the AMX-50 I've ever seen. I did not know the 120mm gun vehicle had survived!


Thanks, although take a look at the links too - they include some more detail shots.

With the exception of the AMX-50 & ARL-44 being parked next to each other, Saumur is really a photographer's dream, especially for German armor. Most of the collection is well spaced out, allowing for all-around shots & inspection. OTOH, the staff isnt very friendly...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
geoffsteer
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 114

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:46 pm
Post subject: Re: German influence on French ...-Commander's Cupola

Hi Rikard-
The commander's cupola seen in the top photo appears to be a direct copy of the Panther's cupola. If there is a difference, it is to minor to matter.
Thanks for the pictures, interesting piece of history.
Regards-
Geoff Steer [;-{/)
Back to top
View user's profile
Dubliner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 94

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:35 am
Post subject: Re: German influence on French tank design

nt


Last edited by Dubliner on Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:23 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:10 pm
Post subject: Re: German influence on French tank design

- Rikard_Hufschmied
Early AMX-50 rear deck, I could have mistaken it for a modified Panther ...


BTW, Rickard, I am sure that is in no small part due to the fact that the AMX-50 was powered by a Maybach HL 295 engine. Maybach produced the engines for France after the war in the French sector.

Incidentally, I'm kinda amused by the new Mercedes-Benz Maybach car. Not that I'm in the range for a Mercedes-Benz, but not sure I could bring myself to drive a car named after German (okay and French) tank engines Wink

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum