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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:00 pm
Post subject: I want an allied steam locomotive, so gimme one!

Hi Guys-
Am I the only one who would like to see an allied WW-II steam locomotive? Right now, Baluard makes a Series VIc Type 75 German locomotive and a BR 60 armoured locomotive. Trumpeter is giving us a BR52. So, we have three German steam locomotives and a Diesel locomotive WR 360 C14, that last is also from Baluard. Neither of the above two kit manufacturers are in north America which, may have something to do with why we have not seen an allied locomotive yet. I raised this subject once before and was told that no kit manufacturer saw any diorama possibilities involving allied locomotives. Well, the U.S. sent steam locomotives to Europe during WW-I most of which were still in use during WW-II. Both the U.S. and Britain manufactured steam locomotives specificaly for use in Europe post D-Day. So, there is a considerable amount of diorama possibilities for allied steam locomotives. With Dragon having already released a number of Reichsban rolling stock with no plans to release any allied rolling stock, this whole idea is already starting from a position way behind the eight ball. I mean Dragon has supplied rolling stock that can be added to all the locos. mentioned above while there is nothing available to be added to an allied loco. On the other hand, some of the Dragon rolling stock could be used behind the U.S. WW-I era locos.
As for the British and U.S.WW-II locos. said rolling stock would have been pressed into allied service as it was captured during the run across N.W. Europe. Well, what do you guys think? Would an allied steam Locomotive have any buyers?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:05 pm
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Geoff,
Nothing for you to build here, and the scale might not suit you, but check out all the items in Banshee's post:

com-central.net/index....pic&t=2819
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I build 1/72 rather than 1/35 scale armor, but I have been wanting to build a Soviet armored train for quite some time now. Would love to be able to find suitable rolling stock and locomotive at an affordable price. Marklin's 1/87 stuff does not fit my definition of affordable, either.

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Go for 1/25th card David - price is reasonable. I am currently building a 1/25th scale polish armoured train... all 4-metres of it!

www.gpm.pl

Its easy to use the card as a template for a plastic card version as well....

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:22 pm
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Hi Jim-
Where on the site is the armoured train you're building? I looked and cannot find it. Could you, please, let me know where it is? I tried what I thought was the obvious, clicking on railway, and still could not locate it. Are they also doing allied locomotives? Way to much to hope for!
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Look under Modelcard - tanks -gpm

There are a few other armoured train items as well.

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I also did the schienepanzers as well though I went for using the card kit as a pattern and actually built them in brass sheet (I have a G64 garden railway and they are just the right size for it). They are just waiting to be painted at the moment but, as they are the first thing I ever soldered together from brass sheet I cannot quite get past the 'sitting there admiring it' stage

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:56 pm
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Hi guys heres a few kinda related pics from my recent visit to Thailand, i went up to the River Kwai for 3 days to visit the bridge and museums, also they do a yearly light and sound show in comemoration for the guys that died on the burma railway, i have a heap of pics of vehicles from the museums on my video can that i'll post if intrested as soon as i sort out how to get them on my pc lol.

1st wooden bridge remains


second steel bridge viewed from my hotel, this bridge had the center spans bombed out in ww2


japanese c class loco



old british loco used on railway by japanese



some kind of mainentance vehicle ?



memorial outside allied cemitary in kanchanburi.

ok i hope these work its my first attempt at postin pics....

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:59 pm
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WOW how big, i guess i need to deal with the size issue hummm now wheres my windows for dummies.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:56 am
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Gentlemen,

Think outside the box! US steam WW2 locomotives have been available for many years. Look at model railroads. They are in 1/48th and 1/87th scales primarily, but there are some in different scales, even some very pricey handbuilt models in 1/32nd.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:35 am
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Here are some photos of locos and rolling stock being off loaded in Cherbourg.





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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:51 pm
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Hi Guys-
The picture with this caption:
"some kind of mainentance vehicle ?" the front end looks like a German halftrack, about the size of a FAMO!
Bye for now-
Geoff Steer [;-{/) Shocked
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Interesting photo off of Third Armored Division website.


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- geoffsteer
Hi Guys-
The picture with this caption:
"some kind of mainentance vehicle ?" the front end looks like a German halftrack, about the size of a FAMO!
Bye for now-
Geoff Steer [;-{/) Shocked


I think the photo may be deceiving as far as size is concerned, since that is probably a narrow gauge track it is sitting on. The vehicle appears to have been converted from a standard 6x4 cargo truck. Not near my copy of Bart Vanderveen's Directory of Military Vehicles, so I can't verify the make of it. Could be an Isuzu, Nissan, or Toyota in the 2-3 ton load range. Probably would have been used for hauling carloads of ballast stone from quarrying operations to the main rail line, shunting, and other such tasks.

David
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