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- oldtop

I guess I'm an "ole guy", having landed in Nam in April of 65 (Marines), we didn't see the M16s till late 66 I believe. as for myself being a track-mec/ scout in a Ontos (hi dontos) plt. I kept my M14.

- Joe_D

Doug is correct,
Your rifle is your personal weapon and if leadership cannot instill the value of maintaining and qualifying it in their troops the leadership needs to go away. Sorry, this subject gets to me. There is nothing wrong with the M16 today if put in the hands of a trained soldier. The old "I'm just a mechanic/cook/truck driver, what do I need to know that for?" just don't cut it.

- oldtop

Yup..April 15, However, and this is what I ment by what the records say and what the records should say, it was 3rd plt "C" company that landed with BLT 3/4, less than two months later this plt became the 3rd plt of "B" company with the stroke of a pen. This drove some of the other nembers of the original "C" company nuts, Lt Terry couldn't figuer out how I was of the roster for both companys in the same year and month. It's the little forgoten things that make people come to differant . They had forgot about the 1st Lt (hardhead) who was the plt leader at the time of the landing, he had just come into the company three days before the BLT sailed and none of the other officers knew him.
...the "story", In mid June (16th) the plt was leading a Arty Baty of 105mm guns to a new firing postion on the road about ten clicks outside Hue, first three vehicles were Ontos, I was sitting on the front right of the slope plate on the 2nd Pig in the column I watched for the lead Pig to stop and the plt Sgt would wave , this was the hand signal for me to come up and check out what ever was bothering him to his front (sharp blind bends in the road, bridges, fording places, and down into the the valleys of death..etc). as the vehicle I was on move along the road we were about a foot out of and to the right the lead Pig's tracks when "bang" we hit a mine on the right side. ..I went straight up and ricocheted off the right inboard gun tube and then landed on the engine grill right next to the driver's hatch, I yelled to "Harrie the Hog" the driver to kill the engine before we caught on fire, I crawled off the front but was having a little trouble standing, the blast besides making a wreck of the Pig had blown my right ear drum..other than that I was OK. Oh then some dummy rushed up to help and stepped on my sunglasses that had flown off..man do you know how hard it is to get sunglasses that fit in Nam in 1965!
Anyway two days later they flew a replacement Pig in and we were off on a "combat patrol" supporting a grunt unit, and we're at a "halt" out in "Indian country" I was on a small rise scaning with my binos (I hate surprises) when I heard this commotion back at the plt, our 1st Lt plt leader was sitting on the roadside bank crying and carrying on about how he couldn't sent the troops out to get killed any more..well he was replaced the next day and he became the lost and forgotten plt leader of "B" company 3rd Anti Tank Bn..and this is something that's not in any of the Marine Corps command reports.... Oh..ehh, I didn't hear what you said, a little hard of hearing ya know.

- mike_Duplessis

Here's one of the few photosthese days from the Army showing an actual full-length M16(A1?) in Iraq. You'll notice the carrying handle doesn't seem to be removable. Everyone behind him either has an M4 carbine or a SAW.

- mike_Duplessis

The SAW in back isn't too clear - does that weapon look shorter than normal to you?

- Roy_A_Lingle

...I think that might be a M16A2. Hand guards don't look right for the types of M-16A1s that I had to carry. That rifle has the newer rounded type of guards.

Sgt, Scouts Out!