±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 679
Total: 679
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Home
04: Downloads
05: Downloads
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Downloads
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Downloads
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Downloads
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Your Account
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Member Screenshots
38: Home
39: Home
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Downloads
47: Home
48: Downloads
49: Community Forums
50: News Archive
51: News Archive
52: Community Forums
53: Member Screenshots
54: Home
55: Downloads
56: Community Forums
57: Tell a Friend
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Photo Gallery
62: Photo Gallery
63: Member Screenshots
64: Member Screenshots
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Downloads
68: News Archive
69: Downloads
70: Community Forums
71: Member Screenshots
72: Community Forums
73: Downloads
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Member Screenshots
82: Photo Gallery
83: Photo Gallery
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Downloads
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Home
92: Member Screenshots
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Downloads
97: LinkToUs
98: Your Account
99: Photo Gallery
100: Home
101: Member Screenshots
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Photo Gallery
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Home
110: Member Screenshots
111: Community Forums
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Home
116: Photo Gallery
117: Community Forums
118: Member Screenshots
119: Community Forums
120: Downloads
121: Home
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Downloads
126: Community Forums
127: Statistics
128: Home
129: Community Forums
130: Member Screenshots
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Photo Gallery
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: News Archive
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Member Screenshots
145: Member Screenshots
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Member Screenshots
150: Home
151: Photo Gallery
152: Community Forums
153: Photo Gallery
154: Home
155: News Archive
156: Community Forums
157: Member Screenshots
158: Your Account
159: Community Forums
160: Home
161: Downloads
162: News Archive
163: Home
164: Home
165: Downloads
166: Community Forums
167: Home
168: Community Forums
169: Treasury
170: Community Forums
171: Statistics
172: Downloads
173: Photo Gallery
174: Community Forums
175: News Archive
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Downloads
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Statistics
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: News Archive
186: Downloads
187: News Archive
188: Your Account
189: Home
190: Your Account
191: Downloads
192: Downloads
193: Downloads
194: Your Account
195: Home
196: Community Forums
197: Statistics
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Your Account
201: Member Screenshots
202: Photo Gallery
203: Community Forums
204: Downloads
205: Home
206: Member Screenshots
207: Community Forums
208: Home
209: Home
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Member Screenshots
213: Downloads
214: Community Forums
215: Downloads
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Home
222: Member Screenshots
223: Home
224: Member Screenshots
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Home
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Downloads
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Home
235: Member Screenshots
236: Community Forums
237: Statistics
238: Home
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Member Screenshots
242: Home
243: Member Screenshots
244: Supporters
245: Home
246: Home
247: Downloads
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Downloads
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Home
257: Member Screenshots
258: Community Forums
259: Home
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Downloads
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Downloads
266: Home
267: Community Forums
268: Downloads
269: Community Forums
270: Member Screenshots
271: Community Forums
272: News Archive
273: News Archive
274: Home
275: Photo Gallery
276: Downloads
277: Community Forums
278: Downloads
279: Community Forums
280: Home
281: Home
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: Home
285: Member Screenshots
286: Home
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Home
294: Home
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Home
298: Home
299: Community Forums
300: Downloads
301: Community Forums
302: Member Screenshots
303: Photo Gallery
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Home
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Photo Gallery
312: Home
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Your Account
316: Community Forums
317: Home
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Home
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Home
332: Home
333: Community Forums
334: Home
335: Home
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Downloads
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Photo Gallery
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Home
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Home
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Home
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Home
363: Community Forums
364: Home
365: Community Forums
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Home
376: Community Forums
377: Home
378: Community Forums
379: News
380: News Archive
381: Home
382: Community Forums
383: Member Screenshots
384: Photo Gallery
385: Community Forums
386: Home
387: Community Forums
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Home
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Your Account
395: Home
396: Community Forums
397: Home
398: Community Forums
399: Photo Gallery
400: Home
401: Community Forums
402: Home
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Downloads
406: Home
407: Home
408: Home
409: Home
410: Member Screenshots
411: Community Forums
412: Member Screenshots
413: Home
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Home
417: Home
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Home
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: Members List
424: Downloads
425: Downloads
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Home
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Home
433: Community Forums
434: News Archive
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: News Archive
438: Community Forums
439: Home
440: Downloads
441: Home
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Member Screenshots
450: Photo Gallery
451: Community Forums
452: Statistics
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Community Forums
456: Tell a Friend
457: Community Forums
458: Home
459: Home
460: Community Forums
461: LinkToUs
462: Community Forums
463: Home
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Home
468: Downloads
469: Community Forums
470: Home
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Member Screenshots
474: Community Forums
475: Member Screenshots
476: Member Screenshots
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Home
480: Community Forums
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Home
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Home
489: Community Forums
490: News Archive
491: Home
492: Community Forums
493: Home
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: News
498: Community Forums
499: Home
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Statistics
506: Photo Gallery
507: Community Forums
508: Home
509: LinkToUs
510: Member Screenshots
511: Home
512: Community Forums
513: Home
514: Photo Gallery
515: Member Screenshots
516: Home
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Home
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Photo Gallery
523: Home
524: Photo Gallery
525: Community Forums
526: Home
527: Home
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Home
531: Home
532: Home
533: Photo Gallery
534: Community Forums
535: Member Screenshots
536: Downloads
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Home
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Home
547: Home
548: Community Forums
549: Photo Gallery
550: Community Forums
551: Statistics
552: Home
553: Home
554: Community Forums
555: Your Account
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Home
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Home
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Home
565: Home
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Home
569: Community Forums
570: Home
571: Community Forums
572: Home
573: Your Account
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Search
578: Home
579: Community Forums
580: News Archive
581: Community Forums
582: Photo Gallery
583: Community Forums
584: Home
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Home
588: Community Forums
589: Home
590: Community Forums
591: Search
592: Home
593: Home
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Home
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Home
607: Photo Gallery
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Home
615: LinkToUs
616: Community Forums
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: News Archive
620: Community Forums
621: Home
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Home
625: Home
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Photo Gallery
631: Member Screenshots
632: Community Forums
633: Statistics
634: Treasury
635: Community Forums
636: Photo Gallery
637: Community Forums
638: Downloads
639: Community Forums
640: Photo Gallery
641: Downloads
642: Downloads
643: Home
644: Home
645: Photo Gallery
646: Home
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Home
650: Downloads
651: Photo Gallery
652: Home
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Member Screenshots
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Home
660: Downloads
661: Member Screenshots
662: News
663: Community Forums
664: Community Forums
665: Home
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Community Forums
670: Home
671: Home
672: Statistics
673: Community Forums
674: Member Screenshots
675: News Archive
676: Community Forums
677: Home
678: Home
679: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?! :: Archived
Resolve issues with your computer problems here or read about the latest computer parts and information.
Go to page Previous  1, 2
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  Hardware

Topic Archived View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

Ohhhh Cripes....everything on 5's in CFS3 at 1600 x 1200 and smooth as silk...sorry, don't mean to sound like bragging.....but this frikkin card rocks gents. Goood Gawd.

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Shadow_Bshwackr
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Posts: 7019
Location: Central Illinois, USA
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:19 pm
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

LOL Stoopy, I can remember when the next puter I got could max out CFS2!!! Now that was a monster...lol (In those days anyhow.. Smile )

Great feeling to know you're up to speed for a couple years!...:wink:

Congrats on the new 'puter'....:D
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Uhu_Fledermaus
Aircraft Demolition Expert

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: 4369
Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands ~GMT+1
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:30 am
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

Cool

Hi Stoop,

Congratulations with your New system, may it bring you many hours, days and years of fun Mr. Green

erm..............lil question..............does TeamSpeaak also work on that contraption ?? Laughing

fled
Razz
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:08 am
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

Teamspeak worked on the old contraption, no problemo......there are unique issues with it in my own environment that preclude it's use 95% of the time tho, not 'puter related....and would require a family downgrade instead of a PC upgrade to resolve. That being the case I prefer things as they are at present.... Smile

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Hoppa
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 10, 2005
Posts: 583
Location: vernon BC
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:36 am
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

On the subject of what we use and all,,,,,I just finished about all the upgrading and modding I can do to my system for the time being,,,,,,,I can run any game now with best graphics enabled and no choppiness, which in the past really used to turn me off some games,,,,not any more,

will try and describe my lil' puter for ya',,,,,,I'm pretty proud of myself for all the work and money that went into this beast,,,so of course I just gotta show it off......



pent. 4, 3 gig processor
windows xp
ABIT IS7 motherboard and an ANTEC 480 true blue power suppply
1 gig of ddr ram (motherboard will accept 4 gigs though)
ASUS DVD rom and LG CD rom
2 hard drives,,,,,a 40 gig and an 80 gig
ATI radeon 8600xt graphics card
creative sound blaster audigy gamer sound card
for sound system am running logitech Z-5300 , 5.1 THX surround





I guess thatd be all the important stuff anyways,,,,,,but last and not least I have this all mutant modded in a half-glass cabinet,,,lotsa lights and fans and all the real purty stuffs...









_________________
_

______________________________________



-----------------------------------------------------
Many thing's in life are dirt cheap.........
"Dirt"
is not one of them.....


Last edited by JG300-Hoppa on Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:51 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:50 am
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

That looks wicked! Sounds like a great system too. I dig those cool-looking cases, my desk setup has the 'puter going in
it's own cabinet behind a door so we never see the thing....otherwise it'd be cool to have one like that.

Speaking of new systems, I'm gonna be out of touch most of today while I hook up harddrives from old to new, copy stuff over,
configure, and all that. But when I get back, should be all set up and kickin tail. I really can't wait to finally do some online
dogfighting in CFS3 with glass-smooth frame rates and hi-res on all 5's now.....payback time is a-comin!!!

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Hangman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 19, 2004
Posts: 449

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:03 am
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

cool Hoppa, you & I have the exact same case except I got mine in that purtty mustard yellow..lol...

toopy you know one of the worst things you can do for your PC is put it inside a cabinet, unless you have a way of getting cool air in there it really puts a heat strain on yuour system..I remember when I used to keep mine in the cabinet of my desk and then I started feeling how warm the desk was getting from it...something to think about anyway:)
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:08 am
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

Thanks Hangy....oh yeah, it's very well ventilated for sure, entirely open in the back, and I drag it out every so often and check the
fans for dust-free operations......Nevertheless, since the processor and vid card are "hotter" than what I've had, I'm definitely going
to rig up some temp-monitoring utilities for starters, and keep an eye on things. Thing is, I gotta keep the lady of the house happy
too and this is how my 'puter desk is set up, hard to work around it and keep that clean look so necessary for domestic peace...

Thanks for the caution!!

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Shadow_Homfixr
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 541
Location: Fort Walton Beach, FL-USA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:22 pm
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

Nice puter there!!! I know what you mean about touchy, feely, pay and play...lol! Only one upgrade I see you really need and it's a cheap one. That 305 watt supply you have just may cause you some probs. That big vid card you just put in there would be a LOT happier on say a 500 watt supply. At least that is what 401RCAF_Hitman screams about to everyone...lol! Good Luck on getting it all setup and many years of Fun ahead!

_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
JG300-Hoppa
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 10, 2005
Posts: 583
Location: vernon BC
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

my one and only main reason for buying this style of cabinet was my computer desk also has one of those shelving units for storing hidden away.......it was well ventilated of course ,,,cause the back was all open....but having a dog and a cat creates so much extra dust and dander near the floor level,,,,so I wanted something up high, easy access to the wiring and nice to look at........the amount of dust to blow out of the box now has decreased 10 fold.......

_________________
_

______________________________________



-----------------------------------------------------
Many thing's in life are dirt cheap.........
"Dirt"
is not one of them.....
Back to top
View user's profile
401RCAF_Sly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 12, 2005
Posts: 223

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

Just a question

Why a die hard intel man? I don't know of anybody that has had to contact a cpu manufacture for support so it can't be after sales service, reliability of all is very good and performance is well documented for all cpu's

I appreciiate you prolly don't get the price breaks on AMD like we do in europe...

Just wonderin thats all Razz

Sly
Back to top
View user's profile
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

Well, there are probably as many opinions on this one as there are for video cards and all that.....for me it's just simple compatability,
it could all be in my head and there may be NO compatability issues these days but years ago, when the LIM standard was introduced,
the "Big Three" (Lotus-Intel-Microsoft, "LIM") agreed on certain standards and although it's a very (laughingly) obsolete standard now,
it's just a carryover for me and one example. I'm wiling to forsake a small performance edge for simple peace of mind that there's
one less thing to wonder about when something goes wunky, is all.

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JG300-Hoppa
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 10, 2005
Posts: 583
Location: vernon BC
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:16 am
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

I fully admit I'm way outa my league even talking about such things but 'll just kinda put it in easy terms as was done for me upon the purchasing of my first main computer,,,,(pentium celeron ).......I had heard that AMD was more of a gamers processor and had more power,,I wanted it!!!,,but having told the salesman that I was new to everything about computers he said you should go with pentium!!!!!....He had said that usually the more advanced folk will go with AMD ...He said that running higher end games are strenuous and that a pentium processor will automatically shut itself down if it was to overheat,,,,,,AMD will not,,,,thats why you see all these guys with super duper cooling systems and all that.....well,,,,I have kinda lived by those words ever since,,,,,,,AMD...pentium,,,,,don't matter much,,,I still try to keep it cool in there,,,,,,,must be my canadian nature I guess,,,lol Rolling Eyes ..........my first puter was intel,,,,so thats kinda where i remain .......that was also about 5 years ago when I got that first puter,,,I'm sure AMD has changed????????

_________________
_

______________________________________



-----------------------------------------------------
Many thing's in life are dirt cheap.........
"Dirt"
is not one of them.....
Back to top
View user's profile
AARP-StepChild
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 06, 2005
Posts: 43
Location: Hampton Va. US
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:31 am
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

M/B BIOS will shut down the system on overtemp. I believe in insurance!!!

_________________

"THIS is my Kung Fu, and it is STRONG"
TS Server: 151.199.149.217:8770
members.cox.net/raynmanf037/
mysite.verizon.net/rfriedenberg/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
401RCAF_Sly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 12, 2005
Posts: 223

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Retirin' the CFS3 Test Rig...but for what?!

Ah ha

Seems like the vid that Toms Hardware did 3 years ago showing an Athlon 1800 frying itself is still news around your parts lol..

up to date Mobos with protection were available at the time the vid was made, and all since... take it in context

Not a AMD fanboy or anything just don't wanna see guys on these boards limit thier options unecessarily... There are quite a few guys that read these boards who may not have too much hardware savvy and I like to put the other side for sake of balance..

the CPU temp cut off is a non issue and has been for 3 years
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  Hardware
Page 2 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2

Archive Revive
Username:
This is an archived topic - your reply will not be appended here.
Instead, a new topic will be generated in the active forum.
The new topic will provide a reference link to this archived topic.