±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 321
Total: 321
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Home
03: Member Screenshots
04: Photo Gallery
05: Community Forums
06: Statistics
07: Community Forums
08: Your Account
09: News Archive
10: Home
11: News
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: CPGlang
15: Community Forums
16: Photo Gallery
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Photo Gallery
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Home
23: Community Forums
24: CPGlang
25: Photo Gallery
26: Photo Gallery
27: Community Forums
28: Photo Gallery
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Home
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Photo Gallery
36: Downloads
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Home
44: Home
45: CPGlang
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Downloads
49: Home
50: Home
51: Downloads
52: Home
53: Community Forums
54: Photo Gallery
55: Photo Gallery
56: Community Forums
57: Home
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Downloads
61: Photo Gallery
62: Home
63: CPGlang
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Downloads
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: CPGlang
74: CPGlang
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Photo Gallery
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: Downloads
81: Community Forums
82: Photo Gallery
83: Your Account
84: Community Forums
85: Downloads
86: Community Forums
87: Photo Gallery
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Photo Gallery
91: CPGlang
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Photo Gallery
99: Community Forums
100: Photo Gallery
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: News Archive
105: Community Forums
106: Downloads
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Photo Gallery
110: Photo Gallery
111: Community Forums
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Photo Gallery
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Photo Gallery
123: Photo Gallery
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: CPGlang
130: Statistics
131: Community Forums
132: Photo Gallery
133: Community Forums
134: Member Screenshots
135: Photo Gallery
136: Community Forums
137: Statistics
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Your Account
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Photo Gallery
144: Community Forums
145: Downloads
146: Home
147: CPGlang
148: Community Forums
149: CPGlang
150: CPGlang
151: Downloads
152: Photo Gallery
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Photo Gallery
156: Community Forums
157: CPGlang
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Downloads
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Photo Gallery
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: Home
174: Home
175: Photo Gallery
176: Community Forums
177: Photo Gallery
178: Home
179: Photo Gallery
180: Home
181: Photo Gallery
182: Community Forums
183: Downloads
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Your Account
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: CPGlang
198: Community Forums
199: CPGlang
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: CPGlang
206: Photo Gallery
207: Photo Gallery
208: Community Forums
209: Home
210: Community Forums
211: Photo Gallery
212: Downloads
213: Home
214: Photo Gallery
215: Photo Gallery
216: Community Forums
217: Downloads
218: CPGlang
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Member Screenshots
222: Home
223: Photo Gallery
224: Home
225: Community Forums
226: CPGlang
227: Community Forums
228: Photo Gallery
229: Home
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: CPGlang
236: Home
237: Community Forums
238: CPGlang
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Home
242: News Archive
243: Home
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Home
250: Home
251: Downloads
252: Community Forums
253: Photo Gallery
254: Downloads
255: Photo Gallery
256: Photo Gallery
257: Home
258: Photo Gallery
259: Photo Gallery
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: CPGlang
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Photo Gallery
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Photo Gallery
270: Community Forums
271: Home
272: Member Screenshots
273: Home
274: Member Screenshots
275: Downloads
276: Member Screenshots
277: Community Forums
278: Home
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Your Account
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: CPGlang
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Community Forums
289: Photo Gallery
290: CPGlang
291: Home
292: Downloads
293: Home
294: Member Screenshots
295: Home
296: Community Forums
297: Photo Gallery
298: Member Screenshots
299: CPGlang
300: Community Forums
301: CPGlang
302: Community Forums
303: Photo Gallery
304: Home
305: Photo Gallery
306: Community Forums
307: Photo Gallery
308: Photo Gallery
309: CPGlang
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: CPGlang
313: Community Forums
314: Home
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Home
318: Community Forums
319: Photo Gallery
320: Community Forums
321: CPGlang

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:27 pm
Post subject: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

Here you go Neil, this is 4th ID museum with all vehicles in view to the best of my ability. Let me know if there are stiil some you're missing. 4ID HQ's still has an M1, M2, and M728 CEV out front. I also saw a tan BMP down a side street yesterday I haven't gotton to, but I realy could care less about Soviet stuff. But if you need a photo and location, just say so. I hope you and everyone else enjoys and that this isn't too long.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
JeffStringer
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 637

PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:49 pm
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

COOL! A M36B1!

Don't see too many of those!
Back to top
View user's profile
Dirk
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 115
Location: South Africa
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:57 pm
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

Super photos again !

The 4th photo - is that a 8cm PAW next to the 75mm PaK40 ?

Thanks for posting the pics

Dirk
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:20 pm
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

Wow, great pics Jeff! I will have to take some time tonight to sort through them & report back...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:23 pm
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

- SFC_Jeff_Button






I need some Soviet armor ID help. Three T-55s? - or is there a Type 59 in there? - and a T-72

Again, thanks much for the pics Jeff!

Only museum items I have left unconfirmed are:
M2? Bradley USA out (perhaps this is the one at the HQ)
M8 Greyhound USA out
M43 USA out

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:08 am
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

[quote="Neil_Baumgardner"]
- SFC_Jeff_Button





I believe that the one on the right is a T55 as evidenced by the gap between the first and second ground wheel and the fume extractor at the end of the barrel.




I believe that the one on the right of this photo is actually a T62. There is no gap between the first and second road wheel here. The one on the left is a T72.

I'm not an expert though....

cn


Back to top
View user's profile
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:17 am
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

- Neil_Baumgardner

Only museum items I have left unconfirmed are:
M2? Bradley USA out (perhaps this is the one at the HQ)
M8 Greyhound USA out
M43 USA out

Neil


I know that the 1st Cav museum had an M8 Greyhound.



not sure about the others.....

cn
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:05 am
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

[quote="jcneel"][quote="Neil_Baumgardner"]
- SFC_Jeff_Button





I believe that the one on the right is a T55 as evidenced by the gap between the first and second ground wheel and the fume extractor at the end of the barrel.



Thanks, but if you look closely there's actually four Soviet tanks here. Notice the T-72 is barely in this picture, aside 3 other tanks. So 1 is a T-55, 1 is a T-62, and the one on the far left is the T-72; and the other one is?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:13 am
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

- JeffStringer
COOL! A M36B1!

Don't see too many of those!


Exactly! I know of only three in existance - a former Yugoslav one with a T-55 engine in the Patton Museum collection (though I have never seen it); another ex-Yugoslav one at the 1st Cavalry Division Museum at Hood; and this one at the 4th Infantry Division Museum.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:24 am
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

- Neil_Baumgardner

Thanks, but if you look closely there's actually four Soviet tanks here. Notice the T-72 is barely in this picture, aside 3 other tanks. So 1 is a T-55, 1 is a T-62, and the one on the far left is the T-72; and the other one is?

Neil


Well shoot - you're right - judging by the fume extractor at the end of its barrel - I think that this one is also a T55 also or perhaps an Iraqi derivative. From this photo - it looks to have the T55 gap between the first and second roadwheel also. Sorry - don't have it's correct designation.

cn
Back to top
View user's profile
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:14 am
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

Hello Jeff,
Thanks for the very nice photos!

Two questions, woud it possible for you to note the constructionnumbers of the Soviet built tanks in the 4ID and 1CAVDIV museums.

And the second, do the T-55s have a little ventilator dome on top of the turret??

Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Lesley
Back to top
View user's profile
toadmanstankpictures
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 704

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:14 am
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

Here's my take on the Soviet tanks.



The first one is probably a T-54 due to what looks like a ventilator dome on the turret. The second is likely a Chinese T-69 due to what looks like headlights on the fenders, the Chinese(?) laser range finder and skirts. The third is a T-62 and the fourth is a T-72.

_________________
Chris "toadman" Hughes
www.toadmanstankpictures.com
www.cafepress.com/toad...ksandstuff
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:10 pm
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

Wow, I didn't expect such a reaction to the Soviet equipment, which as I stated, I really dont care for. However I will get back there this week and check them out for you all. I'll get pictures of each ones plaque. The M8 Greyhound is at the 1st Cav museum, not the 4th ID's. The M43 is at the 1st Cav museum and I previously posted it on this DG ( I thought). Which vehicle was the M36B1?, I've seen so many I'm getting confused. With its rarity and comments drawn thus far, I will make it my next photo project.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
toadmanstankpictures
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 704

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:23 pm
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

- SFC_Jeff_Button
Which vehicle was the M36B1?, I've seen so many I'm getting confused. With its rarity and comments drawn thus far, I will make it my next photo project.


Its the 90mm gunned tank destroyer in the picture "m4m18.jpg". The M36B1 was built by taking M4A3 wet stowage hulls and placing a M36 t.d. turret on them. I think only 187 were built. As Neil said, they are pretty rare. Along with the ones he listed, there's at least one more in Poland that was recently recovered in Iraq.

_________________
Chris "toadman" Hughes
www.toadmanstankpictures.com
www.cafepress.com/toad...ksandstuff
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:27 pm
Post subject: Re: 4ID museum walk around photos for Neil...

Hi Jeff ! Hi Folks!

- SFC_Jeff_Button

Which vehicle was the M36B1?


The Sherman tank on the right of your photo is the M36B1 tank destoryer.



Again, many thanks for all the super great photos!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum