±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 264
Total: 264
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: CPGlang
02: Community Forums
03: Member Screenshots
04: Community Forums
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: CPGlang
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Photo Gallery
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Home
24: Home
25: Member Screenshots
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: Member Screenshots
31: Community Forums
32: Home
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Member Screenshots
36: Photo Gallery
37: Downloads
38: Your Account
39: CPGlang
40: CPGlang
41: Member Screenshots
42: Photo Gallery
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: CPGlang
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: CPGlang
51: Member Screenshots
52: Member Screenshots
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Member Screenshots
56: Community Forums
57: News
58: Community Forums
59: Home
60: Home
61: Community Forums
62: CPGlang
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Downloads
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Statistics
77: Statistics
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Statistics
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Home
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: CPGlang
90: Community Forums
91: CPGlang
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Home
95: CPGlang
96: Member Screenshots
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Photo Gallery
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Statistics
103: Home
104: Home
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Downloads
110: Home
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Community Forums
115: Home
116: CPGlang
117: Community Forums
118: Member Screenshots
119: CPGlang
120: Community Forums
121: CPGlang
122: Photo Gallery
123: Community Forums
124: Downloads
125: CPGlang
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: CPGlang
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Downloads
132: Community Forums
133: CPGlang
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Photo Gallery
142: Community Forums
143: CPGlang
144: Community Forums
145: News Archive
146: Home
147: News
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: CPGlang
151: Downloads
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Downloads
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: News Archive
158: Photo Gallery
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Downloads
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Photo Gallery
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Photo Gallery
178: News
179: Member Screenshots
180: CPGlang
181: Photo Gallery
182: Photo Gallery
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Member Screenshots
191: Photo Gallery
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Photo Gallery
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: CPGlang
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Photo Gallery
204: Downloads
205: Home
206: Community Forums
207: Home
208: Home
209: CPGlang
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: CPGlang
213: Home
214: Community Forums
215: CPGlang
216: Community Forums
217: Photo Gallery
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: CPGlang
221: News Archive
222: News Archive
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Your Account
227: Downloads
228: Photo Gallery
229: Home
230: Community Forums
231: Home
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Photo Gallery
235: CPGlang
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Member Screenshots
242: Photo Gallery
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Your Account
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Home
253: Home
254: Photo Gallery
255: Member Screenshots
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Your Account
259: News Archive
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Home
263: Home
264: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Environmental pack update, comments please :: Archived
Discussions about the FS2004 game.
Go to page Previous  1, 2
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  FSXFS2004 :: Archives

Topic Archived View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Uhu_Fledermaus
Aircraft Demolition Expert

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: 4369
Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands ~GMT+1
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:57 am
Post subject: Re: Environmental pack update, comments please

as far as aircraft reflections and that sorta thing it's the envmap.bmp that controls it Stoopy.

Did you shut off fs9 completely before switching the bmp ??

at this moment I'm at the office , but when I get home later on today I'll do some diggin and send you a few "items" you can tinker around with to yer liking.


fled
Smile
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
JG300-Stoopy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 5840
Location: Group W bench
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:14 am
Post subject: Re: Environmental pack update, comments please

Thanks Fled - yessir, FS9 was not running when I made the switch. I've even copied the other envmap.bmp from the stock folder over to the Envi Pack, my reflections are more stock but the colors are still "pumped up". You know I have that little tool to switches from EnviPack to Stock and back at will, so I've been careful about it.

Well, anyway, maybe we'll figure it out, maybe not.

_________________
"Once your reputation is ruined, you can live quite freely."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Uhu_Fledermaus
Aircraft Demolition Expert

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: 4369
Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands ~GMT+1
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Environmental pack update, comments please

Laughing

solutions are close by Stoopy ! Wink

looka here => www.com-central.net/in...pic&t=4837

scroll down and look for the post by Tom Clayton about some dyamic shine stuff with a handy lil tool for that particular item.

gonna look into it later on today stoopy, still in the Saltmines Rolling Eyes

catch ye later

fled
Cool
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Uhu_Fledermaus
Aircraft Demolition Expert

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: 4369
Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands ~GMT+1
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:55 am
Post subject: Re: Environmental pack update, comments please

info for test team

BETA1 is available for download

I've tinkered up 3 versions

green
blue
merged


fled
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Kitform
Bar Maid

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 22, 2005
Posts: 2011
Location: Cleveland. UK.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:47 am
Post subject: Re: Environmental pack update, comments please

- JG300-Stoopy
I don't know what file it is that controls it, but one thing the Envi Pack does is increase - greatly - the luminence (brightness, if you will) of the colors. They are much brighter and "over driven" than in real life. While this looks great for some bare-metal aircraft, the effect on painted aircraft, especially white paint, is very very pronounced, to the point I turn the Envi Pack off if I want to fly a white or painted plane for a lengthy time or take screenshots of one.


I found the same thing. I liked the scenery effect but I felt the aircraft looked a little washed out.

After quite a few tests I found the files which effect the luminosity of the aircraft and replaced those files with the stock ones...

It's all here in a previous thread
www.com-central.net/in...mp;start=0
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Uhu_Fledermaus
Aircraft Demolition Expert

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: 4369
Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands ~GMT+1
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:50 am
Post subject: Re: Environmental pack update, comments please

just for the sake of argument try and set your slider for hardware rendered lights to 1

lemme know what it did for ya Wink



fled
Cool
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Uhu_Rodion
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2004
Posts: 1437
Location: L'Aquila, Italy
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Environmental pack update, comments please

Wolter, I just made a short test on all three versions and, contrarily to my first opinion, I'm not so sure anymore if I prefer the L (green) or the D (blue) one.

Frankly, I find the merged option a bit excessive - it might be nice to see brownish reflections close to the shores - the mirroring of mountains or just pollution? - but then it seems to me these reflections look too much fragmented, and the overall impression I get is that it's somehow overcharged.

Instead, the green shades look not so regular and flat as I thought at first, and their changing pitch is really fine, truly attractive. The blueish version is somehow more traditional and because of this keeps its own appeal, but in the end I'm not able to tell which is the better, if there's a better one.

So, while I discarded the merged files, I'm keeping both of the other two, because at this point it's rather a matter of state of mind... changing seas like clothes, mmm, funny idea! Mr. Green

I'll go further on, suggesting you to choose the sea textures according to your plane's livery - best matches could get extra points in the screenshot competition Wink


Marco

P.S.: It is a worldwide assumption that white socks are out of fashion and a clear mark of boorishness; this is why, when I wear socks - which happens quite rarely, as I get rid of them every time I can - they're are exclusively white Razz
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Uhu_Rodion
Janitor

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 14, 2004
Posts: 1437
Location: L'Aquila, Italy
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:31 pm
Post subject: Re: Environmental pack update, comments please

PP.SS.:

Regarding to the "hardware rendered lights" slider in the options/display/hardware settings, I strongly endorse Fled's suggestion - today we've been testing together the effect on the whitewashed Turbo Beaver, and it that case it didn't solve but at least reduced the problem a bit.

On other planes, where reflections on the surface are normally visible, the effect is even better, so that this is one of those cases when pushing ahead the slider doesn't improve the visual, but quite the opposite - inversely proportional, is this the expression?

Mr. Green
Marco
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Uhu_Fledermaus
Aircraft Demolition Expert

Offline Offline
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: 4369
Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands ~GMT+1
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Environmental pack update, comments please

As we tested some this afternoon Marco the idea got into my head that I could adapt something more on the "waterfront" so stay tuned for some more testing Laughing

the one I'm cooking up now isn't to blue and either to green Laughing

inverted proportional engineering ............. Laughing that what we are doing, I think Laughing


fled
Cool
Back to top
View user's profile ICQ Number MSN Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Revive this topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  FSXFS2004 :: Archives
Page 2 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2

Archive Revive
Username:
This is an archived topic - your reply will not be appended here.
Instead, a new topic will be generated in the active forum.
The new topic will provide a reference link to this archived topic.