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can't have too little spare tracks...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:32 am
Post subject: Re: can't have too little spare tracks...

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Notice that the turret on the 'Firefly' has german track mounted to it. Unusable on any allied vehicle


Wonder whether it could be CDP (Canadian Dry Pin) tracks rather than German?



Claus B


I believe you may be correct. Quite similiar to Panzer III & Panzer IV styled 'pin' track.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:01 pm
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Wonder whether it could be CDP (Canadian Dry Pin) tracks rather than German?


Claus, knocked out German tanks were in abundance, CDP track was not. . .
So I would put a bet on German tank track.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:17 pm
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I scanned a close up of CDP tracks on a Grizzly tank in a book that I have. I positioned the photo upside down to get the same prospective as the tracks that Claus posted.

Compare them to the types of the Panzer IV tracks.

It dose look like the tracks on the Firefly are CDP.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:29 pm
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So the tracks on the Firefly tank are definitely CDP ..



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:51 pm
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Wonder whether it could be CDP (Canadian Dry Pin) tracks rather than German?


Claus, knocked out German tanks were in abundance, CDP track was not. . .
So I would put a bet on German tank track.


I still think it looks more like CDP than German track, though. AFAIK Sextons were mostly running on CDP, so they might have come across a few links dumped by the artillery Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:48 am
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not much of an track expert here, but this one on the side of the turret doesn't look quite right either.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:15 am
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not much of an track expert here, but this one on the side of the turret doesn't look quite right either.

They're grousers aren't they. Not track links. They fit over the end connectors of the regular tracks so you have a raised rib which digs in a gives better traction.
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web.inter.nl.net/users...es/t41.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:33 am
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They are grousers and not track links. The grousers clip onto the tracks of the tank and are used to improve traction on soft ground. The Stuarts have brackets on the turret sides and/or the hull front (depending on the model of Stuart) to carry the grousers when they are not in use.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:40 am
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The Churchill's advantage over both Tigera and Panthers (in North Africa and Italy) was the higher rate of fire and speedier traverse. When the OK arrived to use track links for additional protection, as tests showed that adding them to the turret slowed the speed of traverse, we were not allowed to add them other than on the hull. The report on the the tests was submmitted to the UK but, for some unexplained reason, was not passed on to the Churchill units in NWE.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:21 pm
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Here, from the Sherman register:


Source: web.inter.nl.net/users.../track.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:26 pm
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So the tracks on the Firefly tank are definitely CDP ..


Pierre-Olivier, looks like you're right!

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Hanno
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:40 pm
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By all accts the crews thought the extra protection offered was a bonus and as the main threat at that stage of war was a chemical vs kinetic munition such as a Panzerfaust then they also offered a dgree of spaced armour . Crews more than tanks were important at that stages as it was relatively easy to replace a vehicle but the commonwealth formations were running out of manpower.
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