±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 512
Total: 512
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Home
03: Home
04: Photo Gallery
05: Home
06: Photo Gallery
07: Community Forums
08: Downloads
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Home
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Downloads
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Home
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Member Screenshots
23: Statistics
24: Home
25: Member Screenshots
26: Home
27: Home
28: Downloads
29: Home
30: Home
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Home
42: Community Forums
43: Member Screenshots
44: Home
45: Member Screenshots
46: Member Screenshots
47: Home
48: Home
49: Home
50: Photo Gallery
51: Photo Gallery
52: Photo Gallery
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Downloads
59: Home
60: Home
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Member Screenshots
66: Home
67: Home
68: Member Screenshots
69: Photo Gallery
70: Search
71: Home
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Member Screenshots
76: Home
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: News Archive
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Home
94: Photo Gallery
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Photo Gallery
99: News Archive
100: Home
101: Photo Gallery
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Home
106: Home
107: Photo Gallery
108: Downloads
109: Statistics
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Photo Gallery
117: Downloads
118: Home
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: Downloads
124: Home
125: Home
126: Home
127: Home
128: Home
129: Home
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Downloads
133: Member Screenshots
134: Home
135: Downloads
136: Statistics
137: Home
138: News
139: Member Screenshots
140: Home
141: Home
142: Photo Gallery
143: Home
144: Community Forums
145: Photo Gallery
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Statistics
150: Home
151: Home
152: Home
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Downloads
160: Home
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Your Account
168: Home
169: Photo Gallery
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: News Archive
174: Community Forums
175: Member Screenshots
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Downloads
181: Home
182: Member Screenshots
183: Photo Gallery
184: Home
185: Community Forums
186: Home
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Home
191: Home
192: Downloads
193: Downloads
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Home
199: Photo Gallery
200: Home
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Home
204: Home
205: Home
206: Treasury
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Downloads
212: Home
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Photo Gallery
216: Community Forums
217: Downloads
218: Community Forums
219: News Archive
220: Statistics
221: Home
222: Home
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Member Screenshots
230: Home
231: Home
232: Home
233: News
234: Home
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: News Archive
238: Downloads
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Member Screenshots
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Photo Gallery
250: Home
251: Home
252: Home
253: Home
254: Home
255: Home
256: Member Screenshots
257: Community Forums
258: Member Screenshots
259: Community Forums
260: Downloads
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Photo Gallery
264: Photo Gallery
265: Member Screenshots
266: Home
267: Your Account
268: Community Forums
269: Member Screenshots
270: Home
271: Community Forums
272: News Archive
273: Community Forums
274: Photo Gallery
275: Home
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: News Archive
281: Community Forums
282: Home
283: Statistics
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Downloads
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: Community Forums
291: Home
292: Home
293: Home
294: Photo Gallery
295: Photo Gallery
296: Home
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Photo Gallery
301: Member Screenshots
302: Home
303: Community Forums
304: Home
305: Home
306: Community Forums
307: Home
308: Home
309: Member Screenshots
310: Community Forums
311: Home
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Downloads
317: Photo Gallery
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Photo Gallery
322: Member Screenshots
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Photo Gallery
328: Home
329: Home
330: Home
331: News Archive
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Home
335: Downloads
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Home
339: Community Forums
340: Home
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Photo Gallery
345: Photo Gallery
346: Member Screenshots
347: Photo Gallery
348: News Archive
349: Home
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: News Archive
356: Community Forums
357: Home
358: Community Forums
359: Photo Gallery
360: Home
361: Community Forums
362: News Archive
363: Home
364: Member Screenshots
365: Photo Gallery
366: Home
367: Photo Gallery
368: Downloads
369: Community Forums
370: Member Screenshots
371: Community Forums
372: Photo Gallery
373: Community Forums
374: Downloads
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Home
378: Member Screenshots
379: Community Forums
380: Home
381: Home
382: Home
383: Home
384: Home
385: Photo Gallery
386: Community Forums
387: News Archive
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Photo Gallery
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Photo Gallery
399: Home
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Member Screenshots
403: Member Screenshots
404: Member Screenshots
405: Downloads
406: Community Forums
407: Home
408: Downloads
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Statistics
412: Photo Gallery
413: Community Forums
414: Home
415: Home
416: Downloads
417: Statistics
418: Home
419: Member Screenshots
420: Photo Gallery
421: Home
422: Home
423: Home
424: Photo Gallery
425: Community Forums
426: Photo Gallery
427: Community Forums
428: Photo Gallery
429: Downloads
430: Photo Gallery
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Photo Gallery
437: Photo Gallery
438: Downloads
439: Community Forums
440: Home
441: Downloads
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Downloads
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Home
449: News Archive
450: Community Forums
451: Photo Gallery
452: Home
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: News Archive
457: Member Screenshots
458: Downloads
459: Community Forums
460: Member Screenshots
461: Community Forums
462: Photo Gallery
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Photo Gallery
466: Community Forums
467: Downloads
468: Home
469: Photo Gallery
470: Community Forums
471: Photo Gallery
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Home
478: Home
479: Home
480: Home
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Downloads
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Statistics
487: Home
488: Home
489: Home
490: Home
491: Member Screenshots
492: Downloads
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Photo Gallery
496: Member Screenshots
497: Home
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Photo Gallery
503: News Archive
504: Photo Gallery
505: Home
506: Home
507: Community Forums
508: Home
509: Home
510: Home
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
More M60s...
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:25 pm
Post subject: More M60s...

I am in Columbia SC and plan to stop by the local armory to see the 60 & M728 they have out front.

Neil


Last edited by Neil_Baumgardner on Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:37 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:22 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

I notice they have a number under the left rear, is that it??

Neil, I saw the following yesterday
1. M4A3E8 SHERMAN, Brownstown, IN
2. M60, VFW Post 1925 Seymour, IN INCORRECTLY listed as a M48
3. M60, Freeman Field, Seymour, IN NOT ON LIST, this is the nicest M60 I've every seen, looks brand new, neatly stenciled
4. M4A3E8 SHERMAN, IN NG, Main St, Scottsburg, In
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:28 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Jeff Button and Joe D. should both have the low-down on ser. number locations for M60's.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:52 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Neil - Look on the Glacias on either side. I've found both serial numbers and Registration numbers there also on the Rear hull sides above the tracks. I think they may be on towing lugs also.

Doug - Maybe we can create a sticky file that stays at the top of the list with 'where to find serials on common AFVs

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2068
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:13 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Here you go Neil,
This should help.





Doug - Maybe we can create a sticky file that stays at the top of the list with 'where to find serials on common AFVs


Sounds like good idea, I could use it, especially the WWII stuff.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:16 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

- Joe_D
Doug - Maybe we can create a sticky file that stays at the top of the list with 'where to find serials on common AFVs


Sounds like good idea, I could use it, especially the WWII stuff.

Joe D


Belly up and do a "Neil", Guys Laughing Somebody compile and post it, and I'll be glad to "stick it", so to speak. Wink

The way Joe did it is great...picture being worth a thousand conflicting instructions and all....

Come to think of it, we also have a "downloads" section here in AFV land...we can do it as we did Neil's vehicle list, perfect for downloading and printing...
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Sabot
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 380
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:26 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Did the A3s get a new number if they were rebuilt from A1s?

_________________
RobG
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:43 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

What is the number under the left rear? a casting number?
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2068
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:43 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Hi Rob, everyone,
Rob,the answer about A3’s getting new numbers is yes and no. This is what I figured out so far. When the A3’s started production new serial numbers were started. With all previous M60’s the numbers ran in sequence (A2’s included) starting with the first M60A0 to the last M60A1 made (1980). The Anniston and Mainz Depot A3’s made from A1’s were stamped with new serial numbers that fell in sequence with the Detroit new production A3’s. They started making them late FY 1981 (FY 82 for Mainz). An “A� at the end for Anniston, “M� for Mainz. Sometime late into A3 production Anniston stopped issuing the new series serial numbers and instead used the original A1 hull number. They also dropped the “A� at the end. I haven’t been able to confirm it but I believe it was after all A3 production stopped at Mainz (1984) and Detroit (1987). To my knowledge the registration numbers did not change for rebuilds. BTW, all civilian references I’ve seen report 5400 A3’s were made, there were quite a bit more than that. 5400 was the number planned/delivered for the US Army.
To Armyjunk, if you are refering to the picture you posted of the A3 yes, that's a casting mark of that piece of armor. If you go to the Sherman register of Hanno Spoelstra there is a very good section on foundry trademarks and symbols by Kurt Laughlin. A lot of the information is valid for all US tanks up to the M60. When the M1 came out large cast armor went away and so did a lot of jobs in the Blaw Knox Foundry in East Chicago.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:10 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Here's the M60 - A3 I assume? - at the Columbia Armory.

According to the left-front tow-lug its SN 1863.



In the left background of this pic is Williams Brice Stadium - home of the South Carolina Gamecocks!





Here's the M728. Not sure where to find the SN on one of these and didnt find any...





Neil


Last edited by Neil_Baumgardner on Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:50 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

- Neil_Baumgardner

Here's the M60 - A3 I assume?


You are correct Sir. Wind sensor at the left rear edge of the turret.
You ID the CEV as a M278, I am guessing that's a type-o right.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:06 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Oh yeah, 728... Doesnt quite look right with the turret turned around IMO. With such a short barrel, did they even reverse the turret for travel?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:23 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

- Neil_Baumgardner

Doesnt quite look right with the turret turned around IMO. With such a short barrel, did they even reverse the turret for travel?
Neil


I have seen it done both ways. I think it depends on the situation at the time. Vehicles at the rear of a tactical convoy would face their turrets to the rear to cover the 6 o'clock position. Movement during a admin march, crews tended to leave their turrets facing the rear.

As for a vehicle on display, I agree it looks odd. I for one wish that those who control vehicles on display would take the trouble to point the turrets forward and level the gun tubes. Tubes that point down look wrong, tubes that point upward tend to lose battery after some time, level tubes look more combat ready and will not slide back out of battery once the seals dry out in the recoil system.

Sgt, Scouts out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2068
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:30 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

Very Nice, Thanks for the posts Neil,
3 M60's and a CEV post in the last couple days, I'm besides myself, and 2 with serial numbers ! Those CEV's are a pain to get numbers unless you are willing to do a lot of scraping of paint. Most folks don't like you doing that to their pretty displays.

Thanks Neil
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:17 pm
Post subject: Re: So where do you find the SN on an M60?

If there's time, I will try to stop by the M60 at the Camden Military Academy on my way back tomorrow...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum