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armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

I think this might be the best M60 in the US, she is like brand new, seems to nice to have outside

Neil_Baumgardner

Is there also an M48 Patton at the VFW in Seymour? Or is this at the VFW?

Neil

armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

Neil,
Seymour has (2) two M60's one at Freeman Field and the other at the VFW.
If there is a M48 in Seymour its not at the VFW......I don't believe there is a M48 in Seymour

Joe_D

A very nice M60A3,
Most likely has been sitting in a MATES warehouse or Gaurd Armory and rarely used since delivery. Looks like someone went happy with a stencil machine, Those definately are not standard markings. Very nice that someone put the Serial number and Registration on the turret, saves me from asking. I would imagine they are correct. But sometimes you'd be surprised what get's painted on.

Thanks for the great pictures,
Joe D

Roy_A_Lingle

Hi Folks!

- armyjunk2

Talk about odd markings! Check out the area just to the left of the water can bracket. That is the first time I have ever seen a MLC marking on the side of a vehicle.

Sgt, Scouts Out!

MLC = Military Load Classification, used to check a vehicle's weight to the load carrying limits of NATO bridges.

Doug_Kibbey

I suspect they took the opportunity to "label" everything as a sort of educational exercise for the lay person. Obviously the crew knows where the smoke grenade launchers are, not to mention the tow cable.

A2_Prius · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 27, 2006 Posts: 112

A great example of the M60! Doesn't she seem to be "down in the bow"? Could broken torsion bars be at fault?

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: FREEMAN FIELD M60

- A2_Prius

A great example of the M60! Doesn't she seem to be "down in the bow"? Could broken torsion bars be at fault?

Looks about right to me, M60's from the A1 up seemed to me to have some forward list.

Roy_A_Lingle · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: FREEMAN FIELD M60

Hi A2! Hi Folks!

- A2_Prius

A great example of the M60! Doesn't she seem to be "down in the bow"? Could broken torsion bars be at fault?

My guess is the vehicle was driven under it's own power onto that pad. The driver hit the brakes hard and fast and locked them without letting up after it has stopped moving
.
That will cause a vehicle to drop at the front when moving forward and drop at the rear when backing up. After a vehicle has stop, if the brakes are released and then locked down, the vehicle will level some, but not completely. That is where most of those noticable nose down looks come from.

If you want a AFV equiped with torsion bars to set level, you need to let it coast to a stop and then lock the brakes.

Here is an example of a broken torsion bar problem.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

i could see tracks in the grass where she was driven in. Are tanks SHE's in this PC world?

Joe_D

Hi AJ2, Doug, Roy Everyone,
AJ2 said:

Are tanks SHE's in this PC world?

I've always refered to them as Girls (and sometimes the Canine term too when things didn't go right).

Roy said

My guess is the vehicle was driven under it's own power onto that pad. The driver hit the brakes hard and fast and locked them without letting up after it has stopped moving

Roy, if you remember the 60's brakes weren't the easiest to stop with, also the parking brake wasn't the best either. Since the only thing that actually locks is the out-puts on the transmission the tank can't dip and stay there doing what you describe. If the driver was turning or "Neutral Steering" and didn't release the "T-bar" before setting the P-Brake then the tank would dip because the sprockets would be still pulling against each other causing the suspension to compress.
I think this old girl is leaning forward because the Pack has been pulled before she was put on display. Most A3's on display sit high in the rear because of this.

Joe D

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