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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: Combat & M3 Lee pilot
Looks like someone had seen pictures of the M3 Lee pilot. cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayIS...:B:SS:US:1 Neil

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:11 pm
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Well it says the comics are from the '60s so the illustrator probably just looked at old publicity pictures in Life and Sat Eve Post magazines and in the various 'Pictorial history of the War' books that came out in the late war and post war era and coverd it by time periods. It's interesting looking at the publicity pictures that were put out. There were lots of the M-6 heavy tank as well as various early Lee tanks. I assume at least part was a disinformation campaign.

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Combat & M3 Lee pilot
Just like those pictures of "PzKpfw V" (ie Nb.Fz.) heavy tanks in Norway! Neil

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Combat & M3 Lee pilot
The illustrator was probably a kid and remembered the publicity photo from WW2. It was probably the definition of a tank in his mind. _________________ RobG

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Combat & M3 Lee pilot
Didn't the earliest Shermans also have the two MGs in the bow as well? I think it was meant to be one of these... cn

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Combat & M3 Lee pilot
jcneel - Yes, early Shermans (like Michael below) had bow MGs. However, I'm pretty certain I can see the right-side hull mount for the 75mm gun of an M3 Lee/Grant in the comic cover above. Neil

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Combat & M3 Lee pilot
This cover is an unabashed copy of a war-time poster. I don't remember if it was for joining the Tank Corps or buying War Bonds or what. I've been searching on the net and in my references, but I haven't found it yet. I may have seen it at the Patton Museum. _________________ armorfortheages.com/

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Combat & M3 Lee pilot
I do remember seeing a very similar WWI poster - but not so sure of a WWII one... Neil

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:24 am
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Ok - I see the structure looking thing to the right. But I think that might be the curved portion of the cast hull of the M4A1 with a star painted on it. Another reason I think that it might be an early M4 is that the MGs are in the center and not off to the right. As per your (Neil's) photo in another thread about Lee and Grant tanks:

but then, that just may be artistic expression - it is after all, only a comic book cover.....

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:07 am Post subject: Re: Combat & M3 Lee pilot
Actually I think you're probably right - what I was thinking was the hull 75 gun mount is probably just the right fender... Neil

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