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French and American FT-17
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Hello,

Do you know where these photos were taken?
There is a French and an American FT-17 tanks :

The French one :



The US one :



photos were found here :

ww1 tanks

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They are both M1917s from Knox I beleive?

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This is the French FT17 Renault LIGHT TANK





This is the American M1917 6 Ton LIGHT TANK

Both of these are in the Patton Museum. Those photos are a little out of date.


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Why are they out of date?

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Why are they out of date?

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They have 2004 stamped on them. The Museum has been undergoing upgrades for the past several years. The display areas that those tanks are located have been completed.

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Well it seems that there are more surviving FT-17 in the USA (7 tanks, french or US ones) that in France.. (4 tanks)

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Here is an old (slightly out of date) listing of surviving WWI tanks:
www.landships.freeserv...vivors.htm

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Here is an old (slightly out of date) listing of surviving WWI tanks:
www.landships.freeserv...vivors.htm

Neil

On list shold be this tank:
1. FT-17 tank in the courtyard of the National Military Museum in
Bucharest (Romania)
www.worldwar2.ro/foto/...rticle=234

2. FT-17 tank from Vojni muzej Kalemegdan Beograd (Serbia) -
www.axishistory.com/in...hp?id=7768
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I have a little better pic of that one in Bucharest, Romania in my thread on that visit a couple of pages back on this DG that you may use if you wish.

Also, I've got one of the one in the Patton Museum from this year and from 1971 out front (same vehicle) that I can post for you later. Just arrived in Europe and don't have access to my files here.
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Hi Folks!

- the_shadock
Well it seems that there are more surviving FT-17 in the USA (7 tanks, french or US ones) that in France.. (4 tanks)


Dontos posted that one of the vehicles at Knox is a USA M1917 6 ton.

Are FT-17s and the M1917 the same type with just different labels or are they different vehicles?

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Roy,
If I remember correctly, the US model was made using standard (SAE) fittings where the French model was in metric. The logic was it was simpler for US manufacturers to mass produce it that way. (@#$% metric system). And to this day we still cling to our beloved Standard system.

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What's the problem with metric system... Neutral

Wink it works very well here..

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Also, I've got one of the one in the Patton Museum from this year and from 1971 out front (same vehicle) that I can post for you later. Just arrived in Europe and don't have access to my files here.


So there is something I don't understand. The Patton Museum has a FT-17 since 1971. This museum received 2 more FT-17 (more or less wrecks) from Afghanistan, and now, only 2 are exposed. What happened to the 3dr one?

I think that I'll do a survining FT-17 PDF file too.. Wink

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The two FT 17s from Afghanistan are in storage. One is being restored.
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I believe the easy way to tell the difference is the American version has the exhaust on the left hand side, the french have the exhaust on the right hand side...plus if its WWI combat footage its a French tank as I don't believe any of the American made tanks made it to France in time. please correct if you don't agree....sorry i don't have pics of the other sides




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