±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 540
Total: 540
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Member Screenshots
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: News Archive
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Community Forums
11: Downloads
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Downloads
17: News Archive
18: Member Screenshots
19: Photo Gallery
20: Community Forums
21: Member Screenshots
22: Home
23: Member Screenshots
24: Community Forums
25: Photo Gallery
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Home
29: Home
30: Community Forums
31: Your Account
32: News Archive
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Member Screenshots
36: Photo Gallery
37: Statistics
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Community Forums
42: Member Screenshots
43: News Archive
44: Community Forums
45: Statistics
46: Member Screenshots
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Downloads
51: News Archive
52: Member Screenshots
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Photo Gallery
56: Statistics
57: Home
58: Photo Gallery
59: Member Screenshots
60: Photo Gallery
61: Community Forums
62: Member Screenshots
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Member Screenshots
70: Home
71: Photo Gallery
72: Downloads
73: Community Forums
74: News Archive
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Downloads
78: Statistics
79: Statistics
80: Community Forums
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Downloads
87: Community Forums
88: Member Screenshots
89: News
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Home
95: Photo Gallery
96: Community Forums
97: Photo Gallery
98: Home
99: News Archive
100: Downloads
101: Home
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Member Screenshots
110: Community Forums
111: Home
112: Photo Gallery
113: Photo Gallery
114: Home
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Statistics
118: Photo Gallery
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Member Screenshots
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Photo Gallery
130: News Archive
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Photo Gallery
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Downloads
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Photo Gallery
147: News Archive
148: Photo Gallery
149: Community Forums
150: Member Screenshots
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Downloads
154: Home
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Home
165: Home
166: Home
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Home
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Member Screenshots
173: Photo Gallery
174: Community Forums
175: Photo Gallery
176: News Archive
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Downloads
180: LinkToUs
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Member Screenshots
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: News Archive
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Home
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Member Screenshots
201: Home
202: Downloads
203: Home
204: Downloads
205: Member Screenshots
206: Downloads
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Photo Gallery
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Photo Gallery
215: Downloads
216: Member Screenshots
217: News Archive
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Downloads
224: Member Screenshots
225: Community Forums
226: News Archive
227: Downloads
228: Member Screenshots
229: Photo Gallery
230: Community Forums
231: Member Screenshots
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Member Screenshots
242: Community Forums
243: News Archive
244: Home
245: News
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Home
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Home
255: News Archive
256: Member Screenshots
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Photo Gallery
260: Home
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Downloads
266: Member Screenshots
267: Community Forums
268: Downloads
269: News
270: Community Forums
271: Home
272: Photo Gallery
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Photo Gallery
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Photo Gallery
284: Downloads
285: Community Forums
286: Downloads
287: Home
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Home
291: Community Forums
292: Home
293: Downloads
294: Community Forums
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Photo Gallery
300: Photo Gallery
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Home
306: Community Forums
307: Member Screenshots
308: Downloads
309: Photo Gallery
310: Home
311: Downloads
312: Member Screenshots
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: News Archive
316: Home
317: Downloads
318: Community Forums
319: Photo Gallery
320: News Archive
321: Community Forums
322: Home
323: Photo Gallery
324: Member Screenshots
325: Downloads
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Tell a Friend
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Photo Gallery
332: Statistics
333: Home
334: Home
335: Home
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Member Screenshots
342: Member Screenshots
343: News Archive
344: Home
345: Community Forums
346: Home
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Member Screenshots
351: Community Forums
352: Downloads
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Member Screenshots
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Photo Gallery
364: Home
365: Community Forums
366: News Archive
367: Home
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Member Screenshots
373: Community Forums
374: Member Screenshots
375: Home
376: Statistics
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Downloads
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Downloads
387: Home
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Downloads
394: Community Forums
395: Downloads
396: LinkToUs
397: Home
398: Community Forums
399: Home
400: Home
401: Home
402: Community Forums
403: Member Screenshots
404: Community Forums
405: Photo Gallery
406: Community Forums
407: Statistics
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Member Screenshots
411: Treasury
412: Member Screenshots
413: Home
414: Community Forums
415: Downloads
416: Statistics
417: Downloads
418: Home
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Statistics
424: Home
425: Home
426: Downloads
427: Photo Gallery
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Home
432: Member Screenshots
433: Member Screenshots
434: Photo Gallery
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Member Screenshots
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Home
442: Home
443: Home
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Photo Gallery
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: News
455: Member Screenshots
456: Statistics
457: Community Forums
458: Home
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Downloads
470: Community Forums
471: Member Screenshots
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: News Archive
476: News Archive
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Home
480: Home
481: Community Forums
482: Downloads
483: Home
484: Community Forums
485: Member Screenshots
486: Photo Gallery
487: Community Forums
488: Downloads
489: Community Forums
490: Home
491: News Archive
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Member Screenshots
496: Community Forums
497: Home
498: Photo Gallery
499: Community Forums
500: Photo Gallery
501: Downloads
502: Community Forums
503: Home
504: Community Forums
505: News Archive
506: News Archive
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Photo Gallery
510: Home
511: Home
512: Statistics
513: Home
514: Member Screenshots
515: Photo Gallery
516: Community Forums
517: Home
518: Statistics
519: Photo Gallery
520: Community Forums
521: Member Screenshots
522: Member Screenshots
523: Member Screenshots
524: Statistics
525: Home
526: Home
527: Member Screenshots
528: Home
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Photo Gallery
533: Community Forums
534: Supporters
535: Community Forums
536: Downloads
537: Home
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:05 pm
Post subject: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Hello, here is my list of still existing Hetzer and G-13 tanks. This one is incomplete, so would you tell me if you know other Hetzers or G-13 in museums, private owners...

Original Hetzers :

Kubinka Tank Museum (Russia) 2 tanks
Camp Borden (Canada)
Aberdeen U.S. Army Ordnance Museum (USA)
Polish Military Museum, Warsaw (Poland)
Army technical museum, Lesany (CZ) (without gun)
Museum on Demarcation line, Rokycany (CZ) : wreck
Pansarmuseet Axvall (Sweden)
Another wreck, location unknown, might be in Poland

Modified G-13 :

Panzermuseum Munster (Germany)
Auto + technik museum Sinsheim (Germany)
Auto + technik museum Sinsheim (Germany) : unmodified G13
Militärhistorischen Museum der Bundeswehr, Dresden (Germany)
Saumur Tank Museum (France)
Saumur Tank Museum (France) : running condition
Bovington Tank Museum (UK)
Military History National Museum, Diekirch (Luxembourg)
Thun Tank Museum (Switzerland)
Thun Tank Museum (Switzerland) : unmodified G13
Morges (Switzerland) : unmodified G13
Brussels Tank Museum (Belgium)
Bastogne Historical center, inside the museum (Belgium) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
Bastogne Historical center, outside the museum (Belgium)
Battle of Normandy Museum, Bayeux (France)
Army Technical Museum, Lesany (CZ)
ASPHM association, La Wantzenau, Strasbourg (France) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
Musée de l’abri, Hatten (France)
Camp Mabry, Austin, Texas (USA)
Wings of Liberation Museum, Best (Netherlands)
Littlefield collection, Portola (USA)
Pansaarmuseet, Axvall (Sweden) : unmodified G13
Imperial War Museum Duxford (UK) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles (USA) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13

Patton Museum, Fort Knox (USA) (need a photo)
Rusk Toyland Combat Vehicles, Texas (USA) (need a photo)

+ 1 Hetzer shown in Beltring (owner unknown)

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates


Last edited by the_shadock on Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:44 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

- the_shadock

Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles (USA) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13


The VMMV one was originally a G-13. They have modded it to look like an original Hetzer. I have before & after pictures...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

2nd Panzer re-enacted in IL has one
There is also one in private hands here in MI
I think both are modded G13's
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Some pics of the VMMV G-13, post-Hetzer mod:





Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

The Patton Museum's G13 / Hetzer:

I have more, but here is one from May 2005:




Several photos Linked here: Armor for the Ages: Atlanta June 05

Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:38 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

2nd panzer


Dave Crompton's
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

BTW in Kubinka preserved only one Jagdpanzer 38 (t)


It's a late series vehicle, serial number 1775. Current painscheme - restored original painscheme of this Hetzer.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Taranov, thanks for the info. I got some pics of this Hetzer in Kubinka, with 2 different paints and marking, and I thought they had 2 of those vehicles.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
zundappuk
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 65
Location: Behind the Westwall, really!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Original Hetzers in UK.

Bovington Tank Museum

Private owner, friend of mine (as seen at Beltring etc)

Unrestored example, Private owner.

The IWM Duxford example is a G13, but hull number indicates origianl re-worked.

David
Back to top
View user's profile
Rikard_Hufschmied
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 458
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:05 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

I'd classify the Hetzer at MPW Warszawa as a wreck. Whenever I see pictures of it I wonder if someone was in it when it was hit *shrug*... "tin can" or "tin opener" comes to mind.

Link to MPW pictures:

MPW Warszawa pictures

Rik

_________________
Frustra Nate Vive Devincere
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Andre_Flener
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 17
Location: G.D. of Luxembourg
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:19 pm
Post subject: G-13 at the Bastogne Historical Center

Re:

- Bastogne Historical center, inside the museum (Belgium) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
- Bastogne Historical center, outside the museum (Belgium)


Salut Pierre-Olivier,

well, the Bastogne Historical Center has only one 're-germanized' G-13; which had been donated by the Swiss in the late 1970's.

Until the end of 2004 (year of the 60th anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge), it had been on display in front of the building, first in winter-wash, then later in sandfarben colour. In 2004, the museum was a little bit renovated and the G-13 - repainted in an ambush scheme - moved inside, where it now stands inside the German diorama.

Some 'before/after' photos:

Pre-2004:


(Source of this image)

Post-2004:


(Source of this image)

Summary: it's the very same tank!

Hope this helps!

Regards,
André Flener
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Merci André.. Wink

One less Hetzer !! However it's always a pleasure to see one more tank "inside".

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:14 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

G-13 Tank Destroyer (??) - 2nd Panzer Division Association, IL (USA)

In new camouflage
www.flickr.com/photos/...559463281/
Back to top
View user's profile
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:35 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Hi P-O

there is also an G13 at the Overloon museum, modified to look like een WW2 Hetzer



Michel

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
vmmv1
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 13, 2006
Posts: 75
Location: virginia
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

I am fascinated by the concept that there is a difference between a G 13 and a Hetzer. People act like they are two different things? If a Sherman is modified or rebuilt after the war and is given another name, then restored back to original configuration, no one calls it anything but a Sherman??? If a Hetzer is still carrying all its Swiss modifications, then it is a G-13, if it has been back dated to its original configuration, it is once again a Hetzer.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 4
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum