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Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:05 pm
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Hello, here is my list of still existing Hetzer and G-13 tanks. This one is incomplete, so would you tell me if you know other Hetzers or G-13 in museums, private owners...

Original Hetzers :

Kubinka Tank Museum (Russia) 2 tanks
Camp Borden (Canada)
Aberdeen U.S. Army Ordnance Museum (USA)
Polish Military Museum, Warsaw (Poland)
Army technical museum, Lesany (CZ) (without gun)
Museum on Demarcation line, Rokycany (CZ) : wreck
Pansarmuseet Axvall (Sweden)
Another wreck, location unknown, might be in Poland

Modified G-13 :

Panzermuseum Munster (Germany)
Auto + technik museum Sinsheim (Germany)
Auto + technik museum Sinsheim (Germany) : unmodified G13
MilitÃƒÂ¤rhistorischen Museum der Bundeswehr, Dresden (Germany)
Saumur Tank Museum (France)
Saumur Tank Museum (France) : running condition
Bovington Tank Museum (UK)
Military History National Museum, Diekirch (Luxembourg)
Thun Tank Museum (Switzerland)
Thun Tank Museum (Switzerland) : unmodified G13
Morges (Switzerland) : unmodified G13
Brussels Tank Museum (Belgium)
Bastogne Historical center, inside the museum (Belgium) : not sure if itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an original or a G13
Bastogne Historical center, outside the museum (Belgium)
Battle of Normandy Museum, Bayeux (France)
Army Technical Museum, Lesany (CZ)
ASPHM association, La Wantzenau, Strasbourg (France) : not sure if itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an original or a G13
MusÃƒÂ©e de lÃ¢â‚¬â„¢abri, Hatten (France)
Camp Mabry, Austin, Texas (USA)
Wings of Liberation Museum, Best (Netherlands)
Littlefield collection, Portola (USA)
Pansaarmuseet, Axvall (Sweden) : unmodified G13
Imperial War Museum Duxford (UK) : not sure if itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an original or a G13
Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles (USA) : not sure if itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an original or a G13

Patton Museum, Fort Knox (USA) (need a photo)
Rusk Toyland Combat Vehicles, Texas (USA) (need a photo)

+ 1 Hetzer shown in Beltring (owner unknown)

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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
- the_shadock Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles (USA) : not sure if itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an original or a G13 The VMMV one was originally a G-13. They have modded it to look like an original Hetzer. I have before & after pictures... Neil

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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
2nd Panzer re-enacted in IL has one There is also one in private hands here in MI I think both are modded G13's

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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
Some pics of the VMMV G-13, post-Hetzer mod: Neil

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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
The Patton Museum's G13 / Hetzer: I have more, but here is one from May 2005: Several photos Linked here: Armor for the Ages: Atlanta June 05 Don _________________ "Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."

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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:38 am Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
2nd panzer Dave Crompton's

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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
BTW in Kubinka preserved only one Jagdpanzer 38 (t) It's a late series vehicle, serial number 1775. Current painscheme - restored original painscheme of this Hetzer.

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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
Taranov, thanks for the info. I got some pics of this Hetzer in Kubinka, with 2 different paints and marking, and I thought they had 2 of those vehicles. P-O _________________ soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates

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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
Original Hetzers in UK. Bovington Tank Museum Private owner, friend of mine (as seen at Beltring etc) Unrestored example, Private owner. The IWM Duxford example is a G13, but hull number indicates origianl re-worked. David

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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
I'd classify the Hetzer at MPW Warszawa as a wreck. Whenever I see pictures of it I wonder if someone was in it when it was hit shrug... "tin can" or "tin opener" comes to mind. Link to MPW pictures: MPW Warszawa pictures Rik _________________ Frustra Nate Vive Devincere

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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:19 pm
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- Bastogne Historical center, inside the museum (Belgium) : not sure if itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an original or a G13
- Bastogne Historical center, outside the museum (Belgium)

Salut Pierre-Olivier,

well, the Bastogne Historical Center has only one 're-germanized' G-13; which had been donated by the Swiss in the late 1970's.

Until the end of 2004 (year of the 60th anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge), it had been on display in front of the building, first in winter-wash, then later in sandfarben colour. In 2004, the museum was a little bit renovated and the G-13 - repainted in an ambush scheme - moved inside, where it now stands inside the German diorama.

Some 'before/after' photos:

Pre-2004:

(Source of this image)

Post-2004:

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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
Merci AndrÃƒÂ©.. One less Hetzer !! However it's always a pleasure to see one more tank "inside". P-O _________________ soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates

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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
G-13 Tank Destroyer (??) - 2nd Panzer Division Association, IL (USA) In new camouflage www.flickr.com/photos/...559463281/

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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
Hi P-O there is also an G13 at the Overloon museum, modified to look like een WW2 Hetzer Michel _________________ I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You

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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:21 pm
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I am fascinated by the concept that there is a difference between a G 13 and a Hetzer. People act like they are two different things? If a Sherman is modified or rebuilt after the war and is given another name, then restored back to original configuration, no one calls it anything but a Sherman??? If a Hetzer is still carrying all its Swiss modifications, then it is a G-13, if it has been back dated to its original configuration, it is once again a Hetzer.

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