±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 482
Total: 482
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Photo Gallery
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Photo Gallery
06: Community Forums
07: Member Screenshots
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Member Screenshots
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Photo Gallery
19: Community Forums
20: Photo Gallery
21: Community Forums
22: Downloads
23: Home
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Member Screenshots
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Member Screenshots
35: Home
36: Member Screenshots
37: Downloads
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Home
44: Photo Gallery
45: Member Screenshots
46: Member Screenshots
47: Downloads
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Home
51: Member Screenshots
52: Home
53: Home
54: Photo Gallery
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Member Screenshots
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Downloads
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Member Screenshots
64: Photo Gallery
65: Community Forums
66: Photo Gallery
67: Home
68: Photo Gallery
69: Photo Gallery
70: Photo Gallery
71: Statistics
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Photo Gallery
75: Photo Gallery
76: Home
77: Photo Gallery
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Community Forums
85: Photo Gallery
86: Home
87: Home
88: Home
89: Home
90: Home
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Downloads
94: Community Forums
95: Statistics
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Downloads
99: Community Forums
100: Member Screenshots
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Community Forums
105: Home
106: Downloads
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Downloads
110: Community Forums
111: Home
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Home
116: Downloads
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Home
120: Photo Gallery
121: Home
122: Photo Gallery
123: Home
124: Photo Gallery
125: Home
126: Home
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Statistics
133: Home
134: Home
135: Home
136: Home
137: Home
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Home
142: Home
143: Community Forums
144: Home
145: Home
146: Community Forums
147: Photo Gallery
148: Member Screenshots
149: Downloads
150: Photo Gallery
151: Home
152: Member Screenshots
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Home
156: Downloads
157: Member Screenshots
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Home
161: Photo Gallery
162: Member Screenshots
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Home
167: Home
168: Home
169: Photo Gallery
170: Community Forums
171: Photo Gallery
172: Member Screenshots
173: Community Forums
174: Home
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Home
178: Home
179: Community Forums
180: Downloads
181: Photo Gallery
182: Home
183: Community Forums
184: Home
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Photo Gallery
188: Home
189: Downloads
190: Member Screenshots
191: Home
192: Downloads
193: Community Forums
194: Home
195: Downloads
196: Community Forums
197: Photo Gallery
198: Photo Gallery
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: Home
203: Home
204: Home
205: Home
206: Home
207: Home
208: Home
209: Home
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Member Screenshots
213: Community Forums
214: Member Screenshots
215: Community Forums
216: Home
217: Photo Gallery
218: Community Forums
219: Member Screenshots
220: Home
221: Photo Gallery
222: Photo Gallery
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Photo Gallery
226: Community Forums
227: Member Screenshots
228: Photo Gallery
229: Home
230: Downloads
231: Search
232: Community Forums
233: Home
234: Downloads
235: News Archive
236: Photo Gallery
237: Home
238: Photo Gallery
239: Photo Gallery
240: Home
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Photo Gallery
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: News Archive
247: Home
248: Home
249: Home
250: Member Screenshots
251: Home
252: Home
253: Community Forums
254: Photo Gallery
255: Members List
256: Home
257: Community Forums
258: Photo Gallery
259: Downloads
260: Photo Gallery
261: Home
262: Home
263: Home
264: Home
265: Photo Gallery
266: Community Forums
267: Home
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Community Forums
271: Home
272: Member Screenshots
273: Home
274: Photo Gallery
275: Downloads
276: Photo Gallery
277: Home
278: Home
279: Home
280: Home
281: Community Forums
282: Home
283: Home
284: Home
285: Home
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: Home
291: Community Forums
292: Home
293: Home
294: Photo Gallery
295: Photo Gallery
296: Home
297: Home
298: Home
299: Home
300: Home
301: Member Screenshots
302: Home
303: Your Account
304: Home
305: Home
306: Home
307: Home
308: Community Forums
309: Member Screenshots
310: Community Forums
311: Home
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Home
315: Home
316: Home
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Photo Gallery
321: Community Forums
322: Photo Gallery
323: Community Forums
324: Home
325: Photo Gallery
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Home
329: Downloads
330: Photo Gallery
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Photo Gallery
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Statistics
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Member Screenshots
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Home
344: Home
345: Home
346: Photo Gallery
347: Downloads
348: Downloads
349: Photo Gallery
350: Home
351: Home
352: News Archive
353: Home
354: Home
355: Home
356: Community Forums
357: Home
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Downloads
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: Home
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Downloads
373: Community Forums
374: Home
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Home
378: Home
379: Home
380: Home
381: Home
382: Photo Gallery
383: Home
384: Photo Gallery
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Downloads
389: Photo Gallery
390: Home
391: Home
392: Home
393: Home
394: Home
395: Home
396: Home
397: Home
398: Home
399: Home
400: Home
401: Home
402: Home
403: Community Forums
404: Member Screenshots
405: Home
406: Photo Gallery
407: Photo Gallery
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Member Screenshots
411: Home
412: Home
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Member Screenshots
416: Member Screenshots
417: Community Forums
418: Photo Gallery
419: Home
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Photo Gallery
425: Home
426: Community Forums
427: Photo Gallery
428: Home
429: Home
430: Home
431: News
432: Community Forums
433: Home
434: Photo Gallery
435: Home
436: Community Forums
437: Photo Gallery
438: Photo Gallery
439: Photo Gallery
440: Photo Gallery
441: Community Forums
442: Home
443: Photo Gallery
444: Community Forums
445: Photo Gallery
446: Downloads
447: Home
448: Home
449: Community Forums
450: Home
451: Home
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Home
456: Member Screenshots
457: Home
458: News
459: Community Forums
460: Photo Gallery
461: Member Screenshots
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Member Screenshots
465: Home
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Home
470: Home
471: Community Forums
472: Home
473: Home
474: Home
475: Member Screenshots
476: Member Screenshots
477: Home
478: Photo Gallery
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Home
482: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Any guesses...Mystery weapon....
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:30 am
Post subject: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

Anyone got an idea on this????



From the website:
Michael Yon online

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:53 am
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

Hi Dontos! Hi Folks!

Interesting!

I read a number of the posts over at Michael Yon site.

I question the call that is a toy. Look at that scope. If it was toy, why spend that much money for a nice rifle scope? While it looks like a toy to me, I don't think it is.

Some have called it a recoilless rifle. Doesn't look like it has a breach block assemble on the rear end of it.

Some have called it a potato launcher. While someone like me might have some fun building and using a potato launcher, why would someone who has RPG rockets waste their time building a launcher for potatos?

Some have called it an anti-aircraft weapon. Based on that RPG warhead laying next to it and having seen full size Redeyes, Stingers, and SA7s, I don't think it is big enough to be an anti-aircraft missle launcher.

If that thing was a manufactured weapon, why haven't we seen more of them?

My call:

Someone has/had a supply of RPG rockets and DIDN'T have a launcher for them. Being that someone was a bit handy with tools, he/they made a launcher from some lumber, some pipes, and a few screws.

Sgt, Scouts Out! Neutral

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

Maybe a 75mm sniper rifle? Wink

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

- Roy_A_Lingle
Hi Dontos! Hi Folks!

Interesting!

I read a number of the posts over at Michael Yon site.

I question the call that is a toy. Look at that scope. If it was toy, why spend that much money for a nice rifle scope? While it looks like a toy to me, I don't think it is.

Some have called it a recoilless rifle. Doesn't look like it has a breach block assemble on the rear end of it.

Some have called it a potato launcher. While someone like me might have some fun building and using a potato launcher, why would someone who has RPG rockets waste their time building a launcher for potatos?

Some have called it an anti-aircraft weapon. Based on that RPG warhead laying next to it and having seen full size Redeyes, Stingers, and SA7s, I don't think it is big enough to be an anti-aircraft missle launcher.

If that thing was a manufactured weapon, why haven't we seen more of them?

My call:

Someone has/had a supply of RPG rockets and DIDN'T have a launcher for them. Being that someone was a bit handy with tools, he/they made a launcher from some lumber, some pipes, and a few screws.

Sgt, Scouts Out! Neutral


At first I thought toy, then looking at the scope figured it was some movie prop/paintball weapon or something made for the serious recreational market. But after looking at the site and seeing it is with real RPG weapons I wonder if it is a modern production weapon. I don't think I agree with the 'cobbled together from lumper, pipes and screws'. From what little I've seen of improvised weapons this one appears to be finished to too high a standard. It would be interesting to see other pictures to help determine if it is a 'one off' or a production item

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:48 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

When I brighten it up and enlarge it on my screen, I notice a carry handle and some other appendage on the "round" at bottom. What's up with that?

I don't think it's a toy, but a crafted downsized launcher for stealthy carry or transport. Looks risky to use, too, but these are insurgents. Not much clearance for gases for the guy firing the thing, if it is, in fact, real.

Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2069
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

Hi everyone,
It could be a prop designed to get a kid shot by coalition forces. Unfortunately there are Imams and other influential people that have been giving very realistic toy weapons (AK, MP-5, M4 etc.) to kids in the mahalla's that actually fire pellets. (My friend came very close to killing one). Until you get within 4 to 5 feet you'd swear they were real. You don't need to guess what they are hoping for. All it takes is a young troop that's nervous and a kid to point it at him. Even something that strange looking could get you shot.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

- Joe_D
Hi everyone,
It could be a prop designed to get a kid shot by coalition forces. Unfortunately there are Imams and other influential people that have been giving very realistic toy weapons (AK, MP-5, M4 etc.) to kids in the mahalla's that actually fire pellets. (My friend came very close to killing one). Until you get within 4 to 5 feet you'd swear they were real. You don't need to guess what they are hoping for. All it takes is a young troop that's nervous and a kid to point it at him. Even something that strange looking could get you shot.

Joe D


That's such an appalling alien concept that it obviously didn't even occur to me. I'm familiar with encountering younger soldiers, but with real weapons that fire real projectiles. The kind of blatant disregard for the lives of children that would expend them with no chance of their fighting back, just for the sheer PR value of their death still doesn't come easily to the forefront of this old soldiers mind.

Thanks for the reminder....I think. Sad
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

Looking down the thread where this picture came from one person had an idea that is making some sense to me

This person postulates that since this was found with real RPGs it may be a training aid where the trainee can sight the 'target' through the scope while the trainer views through the tube (boresight) to check out the trainee's aim.

As far as the prop designed to create an 'incident' I remember when toy guns here in the States began getting the orange muzzle caps because of incidents where police officers reacted when they had toys pointed at them.

I also remember the reports during the Iran/Iraq war of the use of young teenagers (and possibly younger children) being used by both sides to test areas for mines and other impediments before attacks. No matter how much I hear stories of 'they don't value life the way we do' I really hope there is a special place in Hell for people use such tactics

Sorry for the soapbox (I take that back I'm not sorry at all)

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2069
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

Sorry guys,
Didn't mean to hit a nerve,

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

- Joe_D
Sorry guys,
Didn't mean to hit a nerve,

Joe D


No apology necessary, Joe. Dose of reality time, and you're the man on the scene. We're looking for answers and your postulation is as good as any we have at the moment.

D.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

- Doug_Kibbey
- Joe_D
Sorry guys,
Didn't mean to hit a nerve,

Joe D


No apology necessary, Joe. Dose of reality time, and you're the man on the scene. We're looking for answers and your postulation is as good as any we have at the moment.

D.


Dittos.

But the fact it has a real scope on it makes me question the 'kid's toy' idea. A simple tube for a sight (maybe with thread cross hairs) would be good enough for that.

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

I saw this image about two months ago - its a toy from one of those action figure sets as is the RPG in the same image..

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

Wow, talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. Now that I look at it, the dirt particles etc in the background look off - too large... There's a lesson about identification in here somewhere...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

This should end this thread...

i161.photobucket.com/a...iernk8.jpg

img254.imageshack.us/i...geddi5.jpg

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Any guesses...Mystery weapon....

Wasn't that the same "guy" taken "hostage" at one point?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum