±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 218
Total: 218
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: News
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Home
18: Home
19: Home
20: Home
21: Community Forums
22: Home
23: Community Forums
24: Member Screenshots
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: News Archive
28: Downloads
29: News Archive
30: Home
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Photo Gallery
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Home
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: Home
48: Home
49: Downloads
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Home
53: Community Forums
54: Downloads
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Home
58: Photo Gallery
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Member Screenshots
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: News Archive
67: Photo Gallery
68: Member Screenshots
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Home
72: News Archive
73: Member Screenshots
74: Downloads
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Photo Gallery
80: Community Forums
81: Downloads
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Home
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Photo Gallery
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Home
91: Community Forums
92: Home
93: Home
94: Home
95: Home
96: Community Forums
97: Home
98: Community Forums
99: Your Account
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: News
103: Community Forums
104: Home
105: Member Screenshots
106: Photo Gallery
107: Home
108: Home
109: Downloads
110: Home
111: News Archive
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Home
120: Home
121: Home
122: Community Forums
123: Home
124: Your Account
125: Community Forums
126: Home
127: Community Forums
128: Home
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Downloads
133: Downloads
134: Community Forums
135: Home
136: Photo Gallery
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Home
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Member Screenshots
146: Community Forums
147: Home
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: Home
154: Home
155: Photo Gallery
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Downloads
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: News Archive
163: Photo Gallery
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Home
167: Photo Gallery
168: Photo Gallery
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Home
172: Community Forums
173: Downloads
174: Photo Gallery
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Downloads
179: Downloads
180: Member Screenshots
181: Your Account
182: Home
183: Community Forums
184: Downloads
185: Community Forums
186: News Archive
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Home
191: Home
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Home
196: Community Forums
197: Home
198: Member Screenshots
199: Home
200: Home
201: Downloads
202: Community Forums
203: Home
204: Community Forums
205: Home
206: Home
207: Home
208: Community Forums
209: Home
210: Community Forums
211: Home
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Downloads
215: Community Forums
216: Home
217: Home
218: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Help identify this strange armor....
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Jeffrey_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 16, 2006
Posts: 60
Location: Killeen,Tx
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:37 am
Post subject: Help identify this strange armor....



I found this Russian marsh tank on strangemilitary.com. And was wondering if this is true info. So I will leave this to you experts. By the way, this is Jeffrey, not my dad, SFC Button. I used to post on Officers Club but now I'm doing the armor thing instead.

_________________
Jeffrey Button, aka "LiL-J"
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:48 am
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

I believe that is Russian Experimental Heavy Tank Object 279 it is in
shed 1 at Kubinka. It is real and I've seen it

Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:58 am
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Yep. Sometimes called the "atomic tank" or some such fanciful stuff.
(Hi Jeffrey!)



Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JeffStringer
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 637

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:55 am
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Just when you thought working on the T-28's suspension/track system was bad enough, imagine this one and in the Russian winter too! Mr. Green
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:42 am
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Oh yeah! Imagine trying to re-track on one of the center sets! Or working on that part of the suspension in any way...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:28 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

All we ever see is the front of that beast. I'm curious as to how the drivetrain at the rear is set up. Also I wonder what weird stuff is under the sheets next to it in armyjunk's picture?

Jeffery, naw I think you'll be Lil-J

As I remember reading this vehicle was designed with two goals in mind

1) Low ground pressure to use in the extensive soft marshy areas that show up, especially in the spring, in much of the old Soviet Union

2) Survivability to nearby nuclear blasts (hencce the name 'Atomic Tank' The shape of the hull was supposed to make it less vulnerable to the shock and blast wave from the explosions

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Bob, You can't tell that is Russian Experimental Heavy Tank Object 277 by the shape of the sheets??? I have the following reference books on Kubinka, I sorta assume people have these but maybe not, I got both from Ebay and it took a while................

1. Model Art no. 460 and no.473 both published in 1994 in Japanese but with English and Japanese Titles on the Pics, each have about 150 different tanks, done by shed. No ISBM number that I can find.

2. This book is almost the same thing but in Russian, no English and one volume, 270 pages. ISBM number 5-88541-004-6, its a hard back book and not very hard to figure the titles out. This one I would sell if I had any idea what its worth.

plus when I go back to Kubinka I could look for more books if someone wanted one, they might not exist any more 1994 was a while ago. Also closer to when I go I will put a note on for picture request.....


Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

That latter one sounds interesting - probably begging for an English translation...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Jeffrey_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 16, 2006
Posts: 60
Location: Killeen,Tx
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Here is some info I found for the obiek 279 trojanov.

The OBIEK 279 TROJANOV

Weight: 60t???
Length: c. 7/11 m
Width: c. 4 m
Armor: 266-305 mm
Gun: 130 mm
Shells stored: 24
Machine-gun: 14,5 mm
Engine: 16/960 hps
alt.: 2DG-8M (1000 ps)
Speed: km/h
Crew: 4

_________________
Jeffrey Button, aka "LiL-J"
Back to top
View user's profile
Cloudy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
Posts: 75

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:28 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

I have a book in english on Kubinka entitled "Kubinka, The Russian Museum of Armoured Vehicles" by Michael K. Cecil and published in 1992. It's filled with relatively poor snapshot-quality b&w photos of the collection with descriptions. It looks like they visited in winter since all the vehicles appear to be frost covered Smile I've been interested in the Obiekt 279 & IS-4 ever since I saw their photos in this book!

Alan
Back to top
View user's profile
Jeffrey_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 16, 2006
Posts: 60
Location: Killeen,Tx
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Thanks cloudy for the info. Can you shoot me any of those shots, thanks

_________________
Jeffrey Button, aka "LiL-J"
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum