±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 335
Total: 335
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Member Screenshots
06: Community Forums
07: Downloads
08: Home
09: Downloads
10: Home
11: Photo Gallery
12: Community Forums
13: News
14: Community Forums
15: Downloads
16: Home
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: News Archive
21: Member Screenshots
22: Home
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Photo Gallery
28: Community Forums
29: News Archive
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Home
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Photo Gallery
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Downloads
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Home
44: Downloads
45: Member Screenshots
46: Your Account
47: News Archive
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Home
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Your Account
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Your Account
63: Photo Gallery
64: Photo Gallery
65: Your Account
66: Member Screenshots
67: Home
68: Home
69: Member Screenshots
70: Home
71: Downloads
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Photo Gallery
76: Member Screenshots
77: News Archive
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: Downloads
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Home
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Downloads
90: Community Forums
91: Member Screenshots
92: Home
93: Member Screenshots
94: Member Screenshots
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Home
98: Member Screenshots
99: Community Forums
100: Photo Gallery
101: Statistics
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: News Archive
105: News Archive
106: Member Screenshots
107: Your Account
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Member Screenshots
117: Downloads
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Downloads
122: Member Screenshots
123: Member Screenshots
124: Downloads
125: Statistics
126: Member Screenshots
127: Home
128: Home
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: News
135: Community Forums
136: News
137: Home
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: News
142: News Archive
143: Home
144: Home
145: Community Forums
146: Member Screenshots
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: News Archive
151: Photo Gallery
152: Your Account
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Member Screenshots
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Member Screenshots
160: Community Forums
161: Member Screenshots
162: Treasury
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Member Screenshots
166: Member Screenshots
167: Community Forums
168: Member Screenshots
169: News Archive
170: Member Screenshots
171: Community Forums
172: Your Account
173: Photo Gallery
174: Home
175: Downloads
176: News Archive
177: Downloads
178: News Archive
179: Community Forums
180: Downloads
181: Community Forums
182: Home
183: Community Forums
184: Statistics
185: Community Forums
186: Member Screenshots
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Member Screenshots
191: News Archive
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Home
195: Statistics
196: Photo Gallery
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Home
200: Home
201: Community Forums
202: Downloads
203: Home
204: Photo Gallery
205: Home
206: Photo Gallery
207: Community Forums
208: Member Screenshots
209: News Archive
210: Member Screenshots
211: Home
212: Home
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Your Account
216: Home
217: Member Screenshots
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Community Forums
222: Member Screenshots
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Downloads
229: Home
230: News Archive
231: Member Screenshots
232: Community Forums
233: Downloads
234: News
235: Member Screenshots
236: Home
237: Downloads
238: Community Forums
239: Home
240: Community Forums
241: Your Account
242: Community Forums
243: News Archive
244: Home
245: Member Screenshots
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: News Archive
249: Community Forums
250: Home
251: Downloads
252: Home
253: Downloads
254: Home
255: News
256: Member Screenshots
257: Community Forums
258: Downloads
259: Photo Gallery
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Home
265: Home
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: News Archive
269: Home
270: Community Forums
271: Member Screenshots
272: Member Screenshots
273: Home
274: News
275: Community Forums
276: Statistics
277: Photo Gallery
278: Community Forums
279: Home
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: News Archive
283: Downloads
284: Home
285: Community Forums
286: Photo Gallery
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: Home
291: News Archive
292: Home
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Downloads
298: News
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Your Account
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Home
307: Home
308: News
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Your Account
315: Community Forums
316: Home
317: Community Forums
318: Photo Gallery
319: Member Screenshots
320: Photo Gallery
321: Photo Gallery
322: Member Screenshots
323: Home
324: Home
325: Member Screenshots
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Member Screenshots
330: Photo Gallery
331: News Archive
332: Community Forums
333: Downloads
334: Home
335: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:58 am
Post subject: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

Hello,

I just received this link which shows very interesting photos of Panzer III tanks :

http://serkoff.narod.ru/photoalbum32.html

The first Pz III (photos 1 to 11) is the one located on Poklonnaya Gora, Moscow. The second one is located at Aberdeen Proving Ground (photos 12 to 19). The third one is exposed at Kubinka (photos 20 to 27) and the fourth one is on Poklonnaya Gora too (photos 28 to 33).

What is very interesting here is the fifth Panzer III (see photo at the bottom of the post). I don"t know neither its current location, nor its type. It seems that the little explanation in Russian at the bottom of the page could help into identifying its current location (a museum?). It seems too that this tank has the old type track "360MM track" and it could be a Beobachtungspanzer indeed. Who could help in translating the text in Russian on this page, in providing more information about this mysterious Panzer III??





Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:47 am
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

I can't help with the translation but I can tell you the Aberdeen pictures are at least 6 years old an dprobably older than that. Looking at the vehicles in teh background I can see at least two that have not been located in that field since I started volunteering in the spring of 2001 (The M108 and the Firefly).

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:48 am
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

Here is the translation through Babelfish web site:

"PzKpfw. III Photo 1-11 pzKpfw.III from the exposure of the museum of World War II on The poklonneye mountain, Moscow. Housing is found in the Chudov region of the Leningrad of obl. Tower is transmitted into the museum by the service of the criminal police g. kolpino. It is otrestavrirovan 38 NIII GABTU of the RF Ministry of Defense in 2001. photo 12-19 pzKpfw.III from the exposure of the museum of the Aberdeen range, USA. photo 20-27 pzKpfw. III of exposure military history museum BTVT, Kubinka. photo 28-33 pzKpfw.III from the exposure of the museum of World War II on The poklonneye mountain, Moscow. It is found in the region g. it is Volga-Don in 2001 it is transmitted into the gift to museum by association "heritage" and administration Of the dubovskeyeo region of the Rostov of obl. in 2002. photo 34-73 pzKpfw. III. Bunichevo field, g.Mogilev."

hth

Chris Neel
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

Thanks Chris for your help,

I also tried to obtain a translation through a website but the text is quite difficult to understand, that's why I would like to have the help of a native speaker.. I will also require the help for doing researches on some Russian websites and I can't do that on my own, since my level in Russian is close to Zero..

I would like to know what is "Bunichevo field" ?? Is it a monument, a little museum?? I can't find any information on the web.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

I got the information. The Panzer III is exposed along with a IS-2 tank and 2 Russian artillery guns at Bunichevo park, Mogilev (Belarus).

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

It's Belorussia.
BTW i'm been on the Poklonnaya Hill today, make some german and japanese tanks shots. Need to upload? Wink
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:09 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

Belarus or Belorussia, it's a linguists debate.. I had a look on Wikipedia and the country is called Belarus in English. But in French we say either Belarus or Biélorussie.. however the official name given by the Government of this country seems to be Belarus..

However, yes I'm interested in getting all the pictures you've taken on Poklonnaya hill. Maybe you could post them on this forum, I'm sure that a lot of people are interested in seeing them too.

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Cloudy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
Posts: 75

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:30 am
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

Please post them Taranov, I'm also interested in seeing them!

Alan
Back to top
View user's profile
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:57 am
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

Type 95 Ha-Go, with markings of 11 Regiment, Kuril Islands, 1945




PzKpfw 38(t) Ausf.F





Turret from PzKpfw I



Turret from PzKpfw IV Ausf.F



Marder III Ausf.M, restoration not looks accurate, but condition of original parts not bad.




PzKpfw III Ausf.J with L/42 gun, some parts of hull not original





Another PzKpfw III Ausf.J with L/42 gun, internal blast damage, i think (or it's can be result of autogen armed metal hunters attack...)

Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

Great !!

Thanks !!

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

- Taranov

Marder III Ausf.M, restoration not looks accurate, but condition of original parts not bad.




I think that this one is more likely a Marder III Ausf. H.

Quoting Wikipedia, "As with the Sd.Kfz.139, [the Sd.Kfz. 138 Marder III Ausf. H] also carried a 7.92 mm machine gun in the hull, of Czech manufacture."

And "The Ausf. M did not carry a machinegun in its hull, instead a MG 34 or MG 42 was carried by the crew."

On your photos we can clearly see that this Marder III has a machinegun in the hull.

Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marder_III

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:19 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

There seems to be a Panzer III turret at Poklonnaya Gora, and also a Panzer III gun, here is the picture :



Taranov, was the turret removed from there? Did you see it when you were there? I am also interested in obtaining pictures of German Half-Tracks if you have some, as I plan to list them all..

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

About Marder III - yes, more looks like a Ausf.H with Ausf.M style fighting compartment.
Turret - yes, replaced by Panzer IV F1 turret.
Halftracks - in fact, it's not german vehicles. First, OT-810 - czech-made postwar vehicle, second - ex-french UNIC P107 with very incorrect restoration.
Also Poklonnaya Hill exposition included "StuG III". In fact, it's work of peoples from Kubinka Wink Hull of PzKpfw III and details from StuG III Ausf.B.
Back to top
View user's profile
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

Comparing Taranov's photo of the "Marder III" at this museum to one of the Marder III Ausf M from Aberdeen, considerable differences can be seen in these vehicles. The Ausf H has a mid-chassis mounted cannon, but one that is considerably lower than the original Marder III Vehicle.

So this one appears to be a reconstructed oddball.


Marder III Ausf M from Aberdeen (April 2007)

Marder III (with 7.62cm cannon) from Aberdeen (April 2007)


I do not have a photo of an Marder III Ausf H to compare with.

cn
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Russian translation needed !! (Panzer III related)

Marder III Ausf. H at Sinsheim :

[img]http://image57.webshots.com/757/4/22/46/2693422460100192038KiACxA_fs.jpg?track_pagetag=/page/photo/news/military&track_action=/Owner/Shortcuts/FullSize[/img]

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum