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Merkava in Germany
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:54 pm
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I was told today at work that in an armour magazine was a picture of a Merkava mk.2 in the Panzer museum in Germany.

Does someone know something about this, when it arrived?

When I have a little spare time at gunnery training in Bergen next week I will take a look and let you know more.

When true this is the third Merkava in Europe (one in the Czech republic and one in Saumur, France.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:09 pm
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Is the Saumur one still there? Could be the same one...

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:38 pm
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yes indeed in the panzer museum of Munster is from the start of 2007 a Merkava I

www.rommelkiste.de/index.html

have a look at neuigkeiten and there it is
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:59 am
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Thanks! I will try to make some photo's (and the serial and registrationnumber) next week!

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:19 pm
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just got back from saumur with loads of photos of their mk1 will post as soon as possible
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:43 am
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Thanks,
I just visited the Panzer museum and indeed they have a Merkava mk.1 with Israeli registrationnumber 830057.

The nice part was that the hatch in the back of the hull was open so we could enter the vehicle.

What surprised me was that there are three languages used in this tank, Hebrew, English and German. For example the intercom system was in German, the instruments on the rights side of the driver in Hebrew and English. Firewall / bulkhead (right name?) in English and so on.

Also the so called space for infantry in the back. I had to crawl on my knees in and out and didn't have any equipment with me. Also the space were they suppose to sit???? Also the less taller soldiers with me could not sit there. To me personally it looked more like a escape hatch and nice storage for equipement for the tank or crew.

All FCS electronics, radio, and optics were taken out of this tank.

I looked for a dataplate with type, factory number / constructionnumber in the tank but could not find a plate with such info. Someone who know were this is. Next week I go there again and can check it. (if they not close the hull hatch........)

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:53 pm
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Hi Lesley! Hi Folks!

- L.Delsing

The nice part was that the hatch in the back of the hull was open so we could enter the vehicle.

Also the so called space for infantry in the back. I had to crawl on my knees in and out and didn't have any equipment with me. Also the space were they suppose to sit???? Also the less taller soldiers with me could not sit there. To me personally it looked more like a escape hatch and nice storage for equipement for the tank or crew.
Lesley


The Merkava's space for four dismounts has caused a lot of confusion ever sense that vehicle was first displayed. Having never been in one, little lone seen a real one, it is my understanding the the main gun ammo racks fold up. The more racks that are folded up, the more room is made for up to a max of four individuals. The down side is for each rack that is folded up, that reduces the number of main guns that can be stored.

Lesley, with this idea in mind, did that Merkava look like it had racks of some type that could be folded up by the rear hatch?

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Its been a while but IIRC the Merkava has ammunition bins each side of that hatch that can be easily removed making space for personnel/casualties.

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:43 pm
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I have taken photos from those ''seats''. I will make them smaller and attach them to a message here. To me it looked that the ''seats'' were some sort of ammo storage bin. I could not find an ammo bunker as on the M1 and Leo2. Also no racks on the turretfloor as in the leo1.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:14 pm
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Here a photo from the inside
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:16 pm
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Driver
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:17 pm
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Gunner controls, all electronics are removed
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:19 pm
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Area above the gunner controls
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:20 pm
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Firewall between engine and fighting compartment
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:22 pm
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One of the seats/ammo storage. In front is the loaders seat.
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