±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 249
Total: 249
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Home
06: Home
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Home
14: Home
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Home
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Home
24: Home
25: Home
26: Home
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: News
30: Home
31: Home
32: Home
33: Home
34: Home
35: Downloads
36: Home
37: News
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Downloads
42: Home
43: Home
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Downloads
49: Home
50: Home
51: Home
52: Community Forums
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Home
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Home
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Home
66: Home
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: News
71: Community Forums
72: Home
73: Home
74: Home
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: Community Forums
79: Home
80: Home
81: Community Forums
82: News Archive
83: Home
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: Your Account
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Home
91: Community Forums
92: Home
93: Community Forums
94: News Archive
95: Statistics
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Home
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Home
105: Home
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: News Archive
109: Photo Gallery
110: Community Forums
111: News Archive
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Home
115: Home
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Photo Gallery
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: Downloads
132: Home
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Home
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Home
153: Community Forums
154: Home
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Downloads
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Home
163: Photo Gallery
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Member Screenshots
169: Home
170: Community Forums
171: Home
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Home
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Home
185: Home
186: Home
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: News Archive
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Photo Gallery
197: Community Forums
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Home
201: Community Forums
202: Downloads
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Home
206: Community Forums
207: Downloads
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Home
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Home
217: Home
218: News Archive
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Home
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Home
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Home
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Home
245: Home
246: Member Screenshots
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
From Chile...the Krupp "Not-quite-a-tank"
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:22 am
Post subject: Re: From Chile...the Krupp "Not-quite-a-tank"

- Neil_Baumgardner
That looks like original carriaget & trailing arms on the GPF - I believe this is relatively rare... But surprising to find in Chile I suppose. Thanks for the pics!

Neil


They have one of these at Fort Morgan in Alabama (of "Damn the torpedoes - full speed ahead!" fame). That one has steel rimmed tires rather than the pneumatic ones seen on the one in Chile.



I guess it is still there - being that Hurricane Katrina went right through there. I was there a few years back. Haven't heard much on the condition of the fort since then - but I guess there have been more pressing items o concern in that area since. That, and it seems to have held up well since the Civil War anyway (with some hard work, I'm sure)....

cn
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:54 pm
Post subject: Re: From Chile...the Krupp "Not-quite-a-tank"

Wink
- Russ_Buchan
Hi, Doug, Hi, fellers!

I didn't think it fair to chime in on the "two smooth..." mnemonic regarding the recuperator tape, because of previous droning sessions at Fort Knox to drum it into our thick 1962 heads.

Nothing like having that big ninety-mil gun run out of el stoppo, and compress your radio (and perhaps the gunner) to recyclables, eh?

Really nice Chilean Naval photos of their relics, though, Doug, especially the relic at the controls of the twin forties.... looks very lifelike and also well-preserved.

I think the silhouette on the mount is of a former US DD type, but can't say just which one -- definitely one of those old "up-and-over" types, where, in order to exit the fire room (boiler room to you treadheads) and visit the engine room adjacent, one had to go up the escape trunk to the main deck, shimmy through the form-fitting hatch, go forward (or aft), and shimmy again down the applicable next hatch, to access the desired fire or engineering space. This was in order to prevent a torpedo or gunfire strike from disabling more than one space (compartment to treadheads) at a time, due to the keel-to-main deck bulkhead being there to maintain watertight integrity. the distance between stacks is a giveaway.

I've been away lately, licking my wounds after the untimely death of my dearest Tommi, this July, and am just starting to seriously visit and chip in at this my favorite DG in the world.

Curmudgeons forever! Just BYOCJ (Bring Your Own Cherry Juice)
Russ


Hey Russ!
Glad to have you back...so sorry for your loss and troubles.

If the relic above seems well-preserved, it's probably the potent combination of Chilean tintos and Escuda beer...puts the color back in your jowls,. Wink

So, like, over in the other thread:
com-central.net/index....amp;t=4836

Craig, the big boss man of the El Monte armor museum discussed (including by telephone last night) our previously aborted plans for a rendevouz at his display and he says, "Come on", which sounds like a darn good idea to me. I'll look for your email in my old "inbox" (and send me your phone number again) and we'll try to work sum'thin' out. I've got a lot of travel pending, but we should put a day together over there in the next coupla' months....whaddayasay? He's got some mighty neat toys! (and seems a nice guy to boot).

I referred him to Neil's list in downloads...he might can check some details for possible updates...and maybe we'll get some numbers when we visit.

That's some mnemonic, if it stuck with ya' since 1962...you shoulda' piped up!
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
David_Reasoner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 127
Location: South Central Kentucky
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:33 pm
Post subject: Re: From Chile...the Krupp "Not-quite-a-tank"

The twin gun mount in the bottom photo appears to be a twin 3"/50 automatic. The ship silhouette on the sign appears to be that of a modernized Fletcher class DD. A large number of Fletchers were modernized in the early 1950's, trading their wartime 40mm and 20mm mounts (and the midships 5" mount and one set of torpedo tubes) for three of these twin 3"/50 mounts.

David

Edit: One such Chilean Fletcher was Blanco Encalada, the former USS Wadleigh (DD-689).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...h_(DD-689)
Back to top
View user's profile
glmm
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:42 am
Post subject: Re: From Chile...the Krupp "Not-quite-a-tank"

- Neil_Baumgardner
That looks like original carriaget & trailing arms on the GPF - I believe this is relatively rare... But surprising to find in Chile I suppose. Thanks for the pics!


Neil, as you can read on the information plate, those guns were given by the US in 1942 and were used as coastal defence weapons till 1998.
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:23 pm
Post subject: Re: From Chile...the Krupp "Not-quite-a-tank"

- David_Reasoner
The twin gun mount in the bottom photo appears to be a twin 3"/50 automatic. The ship silhouette on the sign appears to be that of a modernized Fletcher class DD. A large number of Fletchers were modernized in the early 1950's, trading their wartime 40mm and 20mm mounts (and the midships 5" mount and one set of torpedo tubes) for three of these twin 3"/50 mounts.

David

Edit: One such Chilean Fletcher was Blanco Encalada, the former USS Wadleigh (DD-689).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...h_(DD-689)


Speaking of....there's a whole feature (in which the webmaster is personally involved) over at Castle Arggghhh! ( www.thedonovan.com an excellent blog and great site for gun porn) on the repatriation of Fletcher-class and WWII vet, the U.S.S. Rogers, which was serving in Mexico as The Cuitláhuac and is now coming home (or actually back by now, maybe...was scheduled for August)

If you like these, check out the column and great pics (and a HUGE panoramic composite photo from dockside!) at the feature here:

www.thedonovan.com/arc...ahuac.html

Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:13 pm
Post subject: Re: From Chile...the Krupp "Not-quite-a-tank"

Hey, remember the "Not-quite-a-tank" Fahrpanzer stuff at the beginning of this long-lost thread? Well, here's some more stuff I stumbled across that's the best detail since the loss of the old AFV Interiors site. Some good history, too.(and even a model, if you're so inclined)

www.landships.freeserv...review.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:50 pm
Post subject: Re: From Chile...the Krupp "Not-quite-a-tank"

Neil, I have 33 155mm GPF's on my list in the US
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum