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A little CGI me thinks..
www.liveleak.com/view?...1184838687

bsmart · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: M1 slow mo

Looks like a test range shot to me. At the beginning I think there is another barrel in a test mount beside the one firing. Might even be Aberdeen

Roy_A_Lingle · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: M1 slow mo

Hi Bob (Smart)! Hi Folks!

- bsmart

Looks like a test range shot to me. At the beginning I think there is another barrel in a test mount beside the one firing. Might even be Aberdeen

I have to agree with the test range set up, but I am not so sure it's U.S.

I don't see anything with that clip that says who or what type of cannon/vehicle was firing that thing.

Has anyone noticed any reports on the U.S. funding and developmenting a rocket/missile for a cannon?

Could that possible be a Soviet AT missle that is fired through their 125mm main guns?

Very interesting video!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

bsmart · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: M1 slow mo

Why do we think it's a rocket? I didn't see any blast from the projectile, just the muzzle blast. Maybe I need to watch again

The Aberdeen comment was just based on the relative lack of elevation in the background and knowing they have towers on other ranges (The measure velocity by timing as the rounds go between them) I don't know the Aberdeen range area well enough to either confirm or deny for sure

Roy_A_Lingle · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: M1 slow mo

Hi Bob (Smart)! Hi Folks!

- bsmart

Why do we think it's a rocket? I didn't see any blast from the projectile, just the muzzle blast.

I maybe wrong (again!), but the size of it makes me think it is a rocket or missle of some type. I have watched the video a couple of times and SOMETIMES feel like I am seeing a heat trail coming off the rear end in.

It reminds me of a Shilelagh ATGM except for the pointed nose cone.
Sgt, Scouts Out!

Doug_Kibbey · Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: Re: M1 slow mo

Would a rocket spin?

This was further down in the comments section, FWIW:

"http://www.defense-update.com/products/digits/120M
RM.htm

Medium Range Precision Attack Munition 105/120mm
Tank Round
The US Army Medium Range Munition program is
designed to provide main battle tanks an extended
range, beyond line-of-sight precision engagement
capability. The MRM program is pursueing both
Kinetic Energy (KE) and Shaped Charge (Chemical
Energy - CE) solutions. MRM is a fire and forget,
guided, "smart," tank fired, projectile
that could employ either a kinetic energy
penetrator or an advanced warhead to defeat high
valued targets including the most advanced armored
threats. MRM will have dual mode sensor, enabling
either full autonomous acquisition of vehicle
targets in it's field of view or can be directed
to engage a specific vehicle or non-signature
target through the use of a laser designator.

MRM-KE is designed for 105mm and 120mm cartridges
and comprises an interchangeable sensor component
using multi-mode Semi-Active Laser (SAL), GPS and
MMW guidance, a common rocket motor and a kinetic
penetrator packed into the warhead section. The
MRM will be fired by a tank as a conventional
round, as it starts it flight, the round will
acquire GPS position followed by mid-course
updates and at the peak of its trajectory, ignite
the rocket motor to accelerating to achieve
maximum lethality. The round will be able to
maneuver by employing impulse thrusters to
maneuver and hit at the target's center. It is
designed for effective range of up to 7.5 km.
MRM-KE was first tested in August 2004.

MRM CE - Raytheon, developing a CE version of the
MRM fitted with a SAL seeker, performed a first
successful test of the new projectile in June
2006, fired at a moving tank at a range of 8.7 km.
The semi-active laser seeker projectile survived
gun launch, then acquired, tracked and maneuvered
toward the moving target. This was the first test
shot in a planned series of SAL projectiles fired
from a M1A2 SEP as Raytheon continues to mature
its semi-active laser seeker capabilities. The
MRM-CE will be able to engage battlefield targets
at extended ranges, including beyond line of
sight, autonomously or designated with external
laser target designation. The MRM-CE is a key
component of the Army's FCS (Future Combat
Systems) vehicles and a potential spin-out to M1A2
Abrams SEP.

The first beyond line of sight mission test, held
at the U.S. Army's Yuma, Ariz., Proving Grounds on
Sept. 25, 2006, the laser guided MRM-CE projectile
was fired from an Abrams M1A2 SEP (system
enhancement program) tank, scored an
extended-range, guided direct hit at a moving T-72
tank at a range of 5.4 miles (8.7 km). The test
demonstrated the laser-guided seeker's ability to
successfully target, acquire and track a moving
tank and guide the munition to intercept at the
required range.

In a test firing conducted March 1st, 2007 the
MRM-CE fired from an M1A2 Abrams tank demonstrated
dual-mode seeker demonstrated its most flexible
mode that exploits sensor fusion. During the
flight the projectile successfully acquired laser
designation and transitioned the tracking function
to the imaging infrared sensor against a T-72 tank
target. The sensor guided the munition to a direct
hit at a distance of 5.2 kilometers (3.5 miles).
During this test the target was designated through
an "off-set designation" procedure,
minimizing exposure and warning to the enemy tank.
The laser spot was first used to mark a location
near the intended target, and then using sensor
fusion, the imaging infrared seeker autonomously
founds the qualified target closest to the laser
spot. "The round hit within inches of the aim
point, demonstrating complete mission
success," said Rick Williams, Raytheon
Mid-Range Munition program manager.
"Mid-Range Munition, Chemical-Energy has
demonstrated all required operational
modes."

The Raytheon Mid-Range Munition, Chemical-Energy
projectile is designed to provide the U.S. Army
with lethal, one-shot capability as the service
continues its transformation to lighter, more
deployable combat forces. The Mid-Range Munition,
Chemical-Energy, which will autonomously attack
battlefield targets at beyond-line-of-sight
ranges, with or without external laser target
designation, is a key component of the Army's
Future Combat Systems vehicles.

Posted 7 days ago by "deltaboy2006" (R) "

Roy_A_Lingle · Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: Re: M1 slow mo

Hi Doug! Hi Folks!

That what it is! A main gun round for the FCS's MCS!

105?
I wonder if they might possble put a 105 on the MCS or could they be working on a spin out for the Styrker MGS and it's 105?

Very interesting!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

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