±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 1
Visitors: 587
Total: 588
Who Is Where:
 Members:
01: JWB2 > Community Forums
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Home
06: Downloads
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Member Screenshots
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Home
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Downloads
28: News Archive
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Home
33: Community Forums
34: Photo Gallery
35: Community Forums
36: News Archive
37: Photo Gallery
38: Home
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Photo Gallery
42: News Archive
43: Downloads
44: Member Screenshots
45: Photo Gallery
46: Home
47: News Archive
48: Community Forums
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Home
53: Your Account
54: Member Screenshots
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: News
59: Member Screenshots
60: Community Forums
61: Photo Gallery
62: LinkToUs
63: Member Screenshots
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: News
68: Community Forums
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: News Archive
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: LinkToUs
79: Member Screenshots
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Home
83: Member Screenshots
84: Your Account
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Home
91: Member Screenshots
92: Downloads
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Community Forums
96: Photo Gallery
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Downloads
104: Photo Gallery
105: News Archive
106: Home
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: News Archive
112: Home
113: News Archive
114: Photo Gallery
115: Community Forums
116: Treasury
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: News Archive
127: Member Screenshots
128: Community Forums
129: Tell a Friend
130: News Archive
131: Member Screenshots
132: Community Forums
133: Photo Gallery
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Downloads
138: Photo Gallery
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Member Screenshots
142: Community Forums
143: Member Screenshots
144: Photo Gallery
145: Photo Gallery
146: Community Forums
147: Home
148: Statistics
149: Community Forums
150: Photo Gallery
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Home
154: Downloads
155: Member Screenshots
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Photo Gallery
167: Home
168: Home
169: Photo Gallery
170: Community Forums
171: Member Screenshots
172: Contact
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Member Screenshots
177: News Archive
178: Downloads
179: Home
180: News Archive
181: Home
182: Home
183: Photo Gallery
184: Member Screenshots
185: Photo Gallery
186: News Archive
187: Community Forums
188: Member Screenshots
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Contact
195: Community Forums
196: Photo Gallery
197: Community Forums
198: Home
199: Downloads
200: Home
201: Home
202: Home
203: Downloads
204: Community Forums
205: Home
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Member Screenshots
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Supporters
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Home
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Photo Gallery
224: Home
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Home
229: Downloads
230: Home
231: Home
232: Community Forums
233: News
234: Home
235: Community Forums
236: Downloads
237: News
238: Member Screenshots
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Community Forums
242: Home
243: Member Screenshots
244: Home
245: News
246: Community Forums
247: News Archive
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Photo Gallery
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Photo Gallery
256: Home
257: News Archive
258: Photo Gallery
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Photo Gallery
262: Photo Gallery
263: Downloads
264: Home
265: Photo Gallery
266: Community Forums
267: Home
268: Home
269: News
270: Home
271: Home
272: Photo Gallery
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Statistics
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Downloads
279: Community Forums
280: Home
281: Downloads
282: Photo Gallery
283: Community Forums
284: Downloads
285: Your Account
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Statistics
289: Home
290: Your Account
291: Home
292: Home
293: Community Forums
294: Photo Gallery
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Downloads
299: Community Forums
300: Photo Gallery
301: Downloads
302: Community Forums
303: Home
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Downloads
307: Home
308: Home
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Photo Gallery
312: Member Screenshots
313: Community Forums
314: Photo Gallery
315: Home
316: Community Forums
317: Downloads
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Member Screenshots
322: Downloads
323: Member Screenshots
324: Home
325: Photo Gallery
326: Home
327: Downloads
328: Downloads
329: Your Account
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Treasury
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Downloads
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Member Screenshots
342: Downloads
343: Home
344: Home
345: Downloads
346: Home
347: Downloads
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Member Screenshots
352: Photo Gallery
353: Home
354: Community Forums
355: Home
356: Home
357: Downloads
358: Community Forums
359: Home
360: Home
361: Home
362: Downloads
363: Community Forums
364: Home
365: Member Screenshots
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Home
369: Home
370: Community Forums
371: Photo Gallery
372: Member Screenshots
373: Your Account
374: Home
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Photo Gallery
378: Community Forums
379: Your Account
380: Downloads
381: News Archive
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Photo Gallery
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Downloads
388: Member Screenshots
389: Home
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Home
394: Member Screenshots
395: Home
396: Community Forums
397: Home
398: Contact
399: Photo Gallery
400: Statistics
401: Home
402: Downloads
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Member Screenshots
406: Member Screenshots
407: Home
408: Member Screenshots
409: Home
410: Community Forums
411: Home
412: Home
413: Photo Gallery
414: Home
415: Home
416: News
417: Community Forums
418: Home
419: Statistics
420: Photo Gallery
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Home
425: Your Account
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Photo Gallery
429: Home
430: Downloads
431: Home
432: Photo Gallery
433: Downloads
434: Home
435: Community Forums
436: Member Screenshots
437: Photo Gallery
438: Home
439: News Archive
440: Home
441: Community Forums
442: Photo Gallery
443: Your Account
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Photo Gallery
447: Photo Gallery
448: Home
449: News Archive
450: Supporters
451: Community Forums
452: Downloads
453: Downloads
454: Home
455: Photo Gallery
456: Community Forums
457: Downloads
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Home
461: Home
462: Your Account
463: Member Screenshots
464: Home
465: Downloads
466: Downloads
467: Community Forums
468: Your Account
469: Community Forums
470: Photo Gallery
471: Home
472: Community Forums
473: Member Screenshots
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Home
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Home
482: Your Account
483: Community Forums
484: Downloads
485: Home
486: Community Forums
487: Photo Gallery
488: Home
489: Home
490: Community Forums
491: Your Account
492: Photo Gallery
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Home
496: Member Screenshots
497: Community Forums
498: Home
499: News
500: Community Forums
501: News Archive
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Home
507: Member Screenshots
508: Community Forums
509: Photo Gallery
510: Community Forums
511: Downloads
512: Photo Gallery
513: Community Forums
514: Home
515: Community Forums
516: Home
517: News Archive
518: Home
519: Home
520: Community Forums
521: Statistics
522: Community Forums
523: Home
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Your Account
530: Community Forums
531: Home
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Member Screenshots
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Home
540: Home
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: News
544: Home
545: Community Forums
546: Your Account
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Photo Gallery
550: Home
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Downloads
554: Downloads
555: Downloads
556: Photo Gallery
557: Downloads
558: Supporters
559: Community Forums
560: Home
561: Treasury
562: Home
563: Community Forums
564: Home
565: Community Forums
566: Member Screenshots
567: Downloads
568: Photo Gallery
569: Home
570: Downloads
571: Community Forums
572: Home
573: Community Forums
574: Downloads
575: Home
576: Home
577: Community Forums
578: Downloads
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Member Screenshots
582: Your Account
583: Home
584: Photo Gallery
585: Home
586: Community Forums
587: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Ft. Snelling Military Museum - President's response
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
A-109E
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 11, 2006
Posts: 154
Location: Minneapolis
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:43 pm
Post subject: Ft. Snelling Military Museum - President's response

Gentlemen,

John Hutterer, the President of the Ft. Snelling Military Museum, has finally had the time to check out all the photos I've posted and has read your comments. I've taken the liberty of pasting his e-mail to me below for your edification. John is open to 1-to-1 constructive comments and criticism and really, you won't meet a nicer guy.

"Bob,

Just a note to thank you for posting all of your photos to the AFV board. I finally had a chance to look at them. I had to forward your email to my home computer and then view the photos there, since the company that I work for decided that I can't look at the AFV website from our business computers. No big deal, but it added a few days to the time it took me to look at them. I noticed that some of the members of the forum had comments regarding the museum. Most were complimentary, and a couple were not so nice. Can't please everyone it seems. I would be happy to answer any questions that forum members might have, on a one-to-one basis, if you want to post my email address there. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to read every posting to the forum, so I can't respond as the postings appear.

If you would like to come out to the museum for another photo shoot, please feel free to do so. We can probably open up some of the artifacts so that you can get some interior pictures. Only a small number of the artifacts have been restored to the level that the V100 and Stuart have, but most of them still have all of the working parts installed.

John

John Hutterer
Sr Eng Lab Tech
Smiths Medical MDPM
1265 Greyfox Road
Saint Paul, MN 55112
Tel: 651-628-7107
Fax: 651-628-7406
www.smiths-medical.com
E-Mail: john.hutterer @ smiths-medical.com"


I'd guess that anyone from this DB who finds himself in the environs of Minneapolis/St. Paul and has the time to visit the FSMM would have the opportunity for providing input and having a good photo shoot.

Donations are always gratefully accepted. Just a theory, mind. Mr. Green

_________________
--Bob Steinbrunn
BSteinIPMS at aol.com
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Ft. Snelling Military Museum - President's response

Bob,
Well, you can pass on that we don't call ourselves "curmudgeons" for nothing! We might seem brutal in our crotchitiness, but knowing what is required to bring and keep these vehicles in even a mild state of restoration, we have nothing but respect for those who try to keep collections from becoming artificial reefs or scrap metal. Considering the lamentations you hear about the state of the vehicles sitting in the elements at Aberdeen or Richardson Tank Park at Ft. Knox (not to mention the ones sprinkled around post there, or out in the sun at Ft. Irwin, where there are NO tanks indoors, and only one at Aberdeen), our (and my) comments have to be taken in context when considering the Ft. Snelling Military Museum. Fact is, we're all disappointed that all these vehicles can't be housed indoors in environmentally controlled conditions but the reality is, that's impossible. Sad I wish I was as close(?) as Bob Smart, who is himself an hour and a half from where he can volunteer his efforts to a museum, or I'd gladly do so. Sadly, I'm a good 2-3 hours from anything like a grouping of tanks, and travel for a living.

The collection at Snelling is huge, and they've done a stellar job at restoring a few and preserving many from destruction. What we might can do as a group is raise awareness of this collection and maybe do something to improve the condition of what they have so we all have less to complain about and more to offer.

Does the collection have a "foundation" for financial contributions for the collection...

-From one Medical Technololgist and Laboratorist to another....(apparently)
Doug Kibbey, MT(ASCP)
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Ft. Snelling Military Museum - President's response

Unfortunately this collection - which has a fine volunteer staff - is also likely to be a victim of BRAC. The reserve outfit & likely the collection is slated to go to Fort McCoy - which has a decent outdoors collection but no staff to speak of...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Ft. Snelling Military Museum - President's response

- Neil_Baumgardner
Unfortunately this collection - which has a fine volunteer staff - is also likely to be a victim of BRAC. The reserve outfit & likely the collection is slated to go to Fort McCoy - which has a decent outdoors collection but no staff to speak of...

Neil


Which places several of the current larger collections in uncertainty...Knox, Aberdeen, and now this one. You can read on several forums about concerns that people have about when and if these collections will be available for viewing as they go into storage/transport/limbo awaiting facilities on the "other end" which might or might not materialize. There is reasonable concern that some vehicles might disappear from view for indefinite periods, if not forever. The concern is not unreasonable.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Ft. Snelling Military Museum - President's response

- Doug_Kibbey
Sadly, I'm a good 2-3 hours from anything like a grouping of tanks, and travel for a living.


Your lucky - I'm either a long ferry or flight away from the nearest armour collection. If I really pushed it and the connections were just right I could get to Bovvy in about seven hours...

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
A-109E
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 11, 2006
Posts: 154
Location: Minneapolis
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Ft. Snelling Military Museum - President's response

John Hutterer saw Neil's post and has this general reassurance to offer regarding the disposition of the FSSM collection.

"Bob,

Thanks for passing on the URL, and for posting my comments to the AFV board. I may end up joining the board on my home computer, just to take advantage of the knowledge base there, since we really only have a few members who are very knowledgeable about AFV's.

In response to the gentleman who asked if there is a foundation to support the FSMM...the volunteer organization is the financial arm of the museum. If someone is interested in making a contribution, the address is Fort Snelling Military Museum, 511 Constitution Avenue, Fort Snelling, Minnesota, 55111. We are an all volunteer group. Nobody receives any form of compensation for their work for the museum. Every penny that we earn goes to the operation of the museum and the restoration of the artifacts.

It is true that there is a possibility that the artifacts may be moved to Fort McCoy, but we hope that this will not happen. The 88th Reserve Readiness Command will be moving to Fort McCoy, but there will be an Engineer Brigade Headquarters coming in to take their place. There will still be a military presence at Fort Snelling. A representative from a higher headquarters came through about a month ago and evaluated both the FSMM and the Fort McCoy museum. The FSMM got much higher marks because it has an active volunteer group, it is open to the public on at least a limited basis, it has operational artifacts, and it is continuously working to restore more of the artifacts in the collection. Combine that with the fact that it would cost in excess of a million dollars to move the collection even the short distance to Fort McCoy, and it seems reasonable to believe that the museum will stay at Fort Snelling for a while yet. No promises, of course.

I would guess that Mr. Kibbey and I do share something in common in our jobs. I work in the R&D Department at Smiths Medical in Saint Paul. We manufacture patient-portable drug infusion pumps and I work in the Mechanical Engineering side of the lab, testing the design concepts that the Engineers come up with.

Thanks for passing on my comments. I'll have to try to find the time to sign up for the AFV board at home.

John

John Hutterer
Sr Eng Lab Tech
Smiths Medical MDPM
www.smiths-medical.com
E-Mail: john.hutterer @ smiths-medical.com"

_________________
--Bob Steinbrunn
BSteinIPMS at aol.com
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum