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Report from Ordnance Museum trip
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:04 pm
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You may have noted - or Bob probably pointed out - that the Sherman has an experimental HVSS suspension.
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Thats the Allis-Chalmers suspension - one of two different allis-chalmers suspensions tested on Shermans IIRC. The other one is here...

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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:35 pm
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I will say that the markings on the M2 are starting to peel (They are decals) That tank was done at least 5 years ago. I talked to the folks at the Refurb shop. They now paint the vehicle, apply the markings and then put an overall clearcoat on it. So although it would be better if the vehicles were indoors the new paint is holding up well, and the later paintjobs will hold up even better. All we need to do is correct many years of low budgets Sad

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Report from Ordnance Museum trip
der panzer III is really a Panzer IV, I'm bad on wheeled vehicles but better on tanks _________________ img.photobucket.com/al...ildSua.gif

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Report from Ordnance Museum trip
Hi Freiherr! Hi Folks! - Freiherr_Kiefer der panzer III is really a Panzer IV, I'm bad on wheeled vehicles but better on tanks Good catch! I missed the file name error when I looked at that one! Sgt, Scouts Out! _________________ "You can never have too much reconnaissance." General G.S. Patton Jr.

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Report from Ordnance Museum trip
Thanks for the pics everyone.

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:29 pm
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- Freiherr_Kiefer

der panzer III is really a Panzer IV, I'm bad on wheeled vehicles but better on tanks

The wee gun threw me and I was in a hurry. Those WWII "tools of the Hun" I admit I don't follow so closely (unless they fly, in which case I have some "contacts" over in that rowdy JG300 bunch I can ask Laughing

). In fact, I'm pretty much a rank amateur on pre-cold war/Vietnam by comparison to you guys.

Thanks for the correction!

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Report from Ordnance Museum trip
And some more....

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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Report from Ordnance Museum trip
Hi Doug! Hi Folks! Looks like Lulu Bell could use some new springs in that front bogie. I like the looks of the Pre-Lingle. I wonder if that turret was hand cranked or powered? Thanks for the photos! Sgt, Scouts Out! _________________ "You can never have too much reconnaissance." General G.S. Patton Jr.

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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:06 am
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But it was "Lulubelle", it did not have a cast hull, and the USA # should be blue... Sad

The haunted tank was an M3 and later an M3A1 (have to dig out my old G.I. Combat issues) and that whole nickname thingy is a bit over the top... Et tu, Aberdeen?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to put the efforts of APG down, and I'm grateful that these old vehicles get a new lease on life, but I wish it would be less contemporary. *sigh*

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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:03 pm
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Yeah, I'll admit the restoration folks sometimes get a flair for putting nicknames & such on the vehicles. For example, the M18 Hellcat "Fearless Felix" is actually the T70 Hellcat pilot vehicle, with an entirely different RN than is painted on it. In most cases they have chosen to paint them as some notable historical vehicle rather than their actual identity...

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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:21 pm
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, the M36 Hellcat "Fearless Felix" is actually the T70 Hellcat pilot vehicle, with an entirely different RN than is painted on it. In most cases they have chosen to paint them as some notable historical vehicle rather than their actual identity...

Neil

You do mean the M18 hellcat right

I'm going to stay out of the 'names on tanks' discussion. I've discussed it with the folks up there before.

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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Report from Ordnance Museum trip
Oh yeah - I can make mistakes every now & then Neil

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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Report from Ordnance Museum trip
Hi Neil! Hi Folks! - Neil_Baumgardner Oh yeah - I can make mistakes every now & then Neil Neil, that wasn't a mistake, that was an alertness check to see if anyone is paying attention. In this case, Bob (F15) passed the test. Sgt, Scouts Out! _________________ "You can never have too much reconnaissance." General G.S. Patton Jr.

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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Report from Ordnance Museum trip
- Roy_A_Lingle Hi Doug! Hi Folks! Looks like Lulu Bell could use some new springs in that front bogie. I like the looks of the Pre-Lingle. I wonder if that turret was hand cranked or powered? Thanks for the photos! Sgt, Scouts Out! "Pre-Lingle" turret closeup, for any interested parties...

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