±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 694
Total: 694
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Photo Gallery
03: Photo Gallery
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Member Screenshots
07: Community Forums
08: Downloads
09: Community Forums
10: Photo Gallery
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Photo Gallery
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Member Screenshots
19: Community Forums
20: Home
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Member Screenshots
25: Photo Gallery
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Downloads
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Community Forums
35: Photo Gallery
36: Member Screenshots
37: Downloads
38: Home
39: Downloads
40: Photo Gallery
41: Member Screenshots
42: Home
43: Home
44: Home
45: Statistics
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Downloads
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Home
53: Community Forums
54: Photo Gallery
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Downloads
71: Community Forums
72: Treasury
73: Community Forums
74: Statistics
75: Photo Gallery
76: Community Forums
77: News
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Photo Gallery
82: Photo Gallery
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Photo Gallery
88: Community Forums
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Photo Gallery
93: Photo Gallery
94: Home
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Downloads
102: Community Forums
103: Member Screenshots
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Photo Gallery
107: Photo Gallery
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: News Archive
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Member Screenshots
116: Your Account
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Home
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Home
125: Member Screenshots
126: Community Forums
127: Member Screenshots
128: Photo Gallery
129: Member Screenshots
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Statistics
134: News Archive
135: Community Forums
136: Member Screenshots
137: Downloads
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Photo Gallery
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: News
145: Community Forums
146: Member Screenshots
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Photo Gallery
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Photo Gallery
154: Downloads
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: News
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Photo Gallery
163: Home
164: Photo Gallery
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: Member Screenshots
169: Photo Gallery
170: Photo Gallery
171: Home
172: Member Screenshots
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Home
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: News Archive
182: Statistics
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Photo Gallery
186: Home
187: Member Screenshots
188: News Archive
189: Downloads
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Photo Gallery
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Downloads
199: Photo Gallery
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: News Archive
204: Statistics
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Home
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Photo Gallery
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Member Screenshots
215: Community Forums
216: Home
217: Home
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Statistics
224: Community Forums
225: Downloads
226: Community Forums
227: Photo Gallery
228: Photo Gallery
229: Community Forums
230: Home
231: Community Forums
232: Photo Gallery
233: Photo Gallery
234: Photo Gallery
235: Member Screenshots
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Member Screenshots
239: Community Forums
240: News
241: Community Forums
242: Member Screenshots
243: Member Screenshots
244: Photo Gallery
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Home
254: Home
255: Community Forums
256: Photo Gallery
257: Community Forums
258: Photo Gallery
259: News Archive
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Member Screenshots
265: Community Forums
266: Statistics
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Treasury
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Member Screenshots
278: Photo Gallery
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: News
282: Your Account
283: Home
284: Photo Gallery
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Community Forums
289: Downloads
290: Downloads
291: Photo Gallery
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Member Screenshots
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Home
300: Community Forums
301: Member Screenshots
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Home
306: Statistics
307: Home
308: Community Forums
309: Member Screenshots
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: Downloads
313: Photo Gallery
314: Community Forums
315: Home
316: Community Forums
317: Downloads
318: News Archive
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Statistics
326: Community Forums
327: Member Screenshots
328: Home
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Photo Gallery
334: Photo Gallery
335: Community Forums
336: Member Screenshots
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Member Screenshots
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Home
352: Home
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Member Screenshots
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Member Screenshots
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Home
365: Community Forums
366: News
367: Member Screenshots
368: Member Screenshots
369: Downloads
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Home
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Member Screenshots
381: Member Screenshots
382: News
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Member Screenshots
387: News Archive
388: Member Screenshots
389: Home
390: Photo Gallery
391: Photo Gallery
392: Member Screenshots
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Photo Gallery
398: Community Forums
399: Photo Gallery
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Photo Gallery
403: News Archive
404: Photo Gallery
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Home
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Downloads
415: Downloads
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Statistics
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Member Screenshots
422: Photo Gallery
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Member Screenshots
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: News Archive
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Photo Gallery
432: Community Forums
433: Downloads
434: Downloads
435: Downloads
436: Home
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Home
440: Community Forums
441: Member Screenshots
442: Home
443: Community Forums
444: Home
445: Community Forums
446: Downloads
447: News Archive
448: Community Forums
449: Member Screenshots
450: Community Forums
451: Photo Gallery
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Downloads
458: Photo Gallery
459: Statistics
460: Photo Gallery
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Downloads
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Downloads
467: News Archive
468: Photo Gallery
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Home
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Photo Gallery
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Member Screenshots
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Member Screenshots
486: Community Forums
487: News Archive
488: Photo Gallery
489: Statistics
490: Member Screenshots
491: Community Forums
492: Member Screenshots
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Your Account
497: Community Forums
498: Your Account
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Photo Gallery
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: News Archive
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Member Screenshots
510: Statistics
511: Community Forums
512: Member Screenshots
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Photo Gallery
517: Photo Gallery
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Downloads
530: Home
531: Community Forums
532: Home
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Photo Gallery
536: News
537: Home
538: Member Screenshots
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Tell a Friend
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Member Screenshots
549: Community Forums
550: Home
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: News Archive
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Your Account
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Photo Gallery
562: Your Account
563: Photo Gallery
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Home
568: Home
569: Community Forums
570: Member Screenshots
571: Photo Gallery
572: Community Forums
573: Home
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Member Screenshots
577: Member Screenshots
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Member Screenshots
587: Photo Gallery
588: Member Screenshots
589: Community Forums
590: Downloads
591: Member Screenshots
592: Downloads
593: Downloads
594: Photo Gallery
595: Photo Gallery
596: Photo Gallery
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Home
605: Community Forums
606: Community Forums
607: Member Screenshots
608: Member Screenshots
609: Photo Gallery
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Statistics
613: Member Screenshots
614: Member Screenshots
615: Downloads
616: Community Forums
617: Home
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Downloads
622: News Archive
623: Member Screenshots
624: Community Forums
625: Member Screenshots
626: Home
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Photo Gallery
631: Member Screenshots
632: Community Forums
633: Downloads
634: Photo Gallery
635: Community Forums
636: Member Screenshots
637: Photo Gallery
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Photo Gallery
641: Community Forums
642: Photo Gallery
643: Home
644: Community Forums
645: Home
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Home
650: Community Forums
651: Downloads
652: Community Forums
653: Member Screenshots
654: Community Forums
655: Member Screenshots
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Photo Gallery
660: Community Forums
661: Community Forums
662: Community Forums
663: Photo Gallery
664: Community Forums
665: Home
666: Member Screenshots
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Member Screenshots
670: Statistics
671: Home
672: Your Account
673: Community Forums
674: Downloads
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Downloads
678: Community Forums
679: Home
680: Downloads
681: Community Forums
682: Downloads
683: Community Forums
684: Community Forums
685: Community Forums
686: Community Forums
687: Photo Gallery
688: Home
689: Community Forums
690: Statistics
691: Community Forums
692: Photo Gallery
693: Community Forums
694: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:00 pm
Post subject: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

Hi Folks!

The follow is a group of pictures from our new CIA member "CaptCav"
The pictures taken during 1975 and 1976.

This Sp-4 Champion, his M114A2, and his best friend Sp-4 Rooks.
i41.photobucket.com/al...CRooks.jpg

The Vehicles of 1st Platoon. Notice the Lingles are always leading!
i41.photobucket.com/al...021975.jpg

G-37, a Sheridan under some local brush and surrounded by lots of sand dunes
i41.photobucket.com/al...eFeb76.jpg

The Troop Commander's vehicle "El Lobo" and 1st Sgt Bob Uhte
i41.photobucket.com/al...obUhte.jpg

The Troop Commander at the back of G66 trying to remove some of Ft Bliss's finest sand.
i41.photobucket.com/al...rp1975.jpg

A mortar track guarding the Troop TOC
i41.photobucket.com/al...mortar.jpg

Nothing like a Reforger to get the troops out of the desert. Oct. 1975.
i41.photobucket.com/al...unster.jpg

Somebody in G Troop was a good artist with a sense of humor.
i41.photobucket.com/al...fhumor.jpg
A note about that sign "Fred Wilson". That is the name of a street that is between the main camp at Ft. Bliss and the desert training areas to the north of the base. Crossing that street, for training purposes, was like crossing an ocean. From many years, the 3rd ACR was the first armored unit on the list to follow the 82nd Airborne anywhere in the world.

Special thanks to CaptCav for sending me this group of photos with permission to post them. Hope I got the details right.
I always love to see M114s in action!

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.


Last edited by Roy_A_Lingle on Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:46 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:10 pm
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

Roy,
Great post, I always love seeing pictures from the '70's. Relay to Capt Cav many thanks for sharing.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
CaptCav
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2007
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:50 pm
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

Roy....... Thanks for posting my pix. We old troop COs don't do so well with computers, lol. I'd be "all thumbs" in today's hi Tech Army. It's been a long, long time ago; but I consider those 18 months commanding G Troop to be some of the finest times of my life.

And yes... that poor ole TC made it all the way through a 6 week field problem, only to have his "Shank" (a derisive term in the 3d ACR in those days for the Sheridan "tank") break down at the gate to the 3d ACR motor pools. Hmmmmm..... is that a case of Coors on the back deck? Gosh!!! NOOOOBODY in the 3d ACR drank in the field!!!!


Last edited by CaptCav on Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:56 pm
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

Thanks for bringing back memories! I was with 3d ACR at Ft Bliss from 72-73 and 76-79.

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:16 am
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

WOW.... Shades of my teen years......

Moved back there (as dependent in 1977)
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:19 pm
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

- CaptCav

And yes... that poor ole TC made it all the way through a 6 week field problem, only to have his "Shank" (a derisive term in the 3d ACR in those days for the Sheridan "tank") break down at the gate to the 3d ACR motor pools. Hmmmmm..... is that a case of Coors on the back deck? Gosh!!! NOOOOBODY in the 3d ACR drank in the field!!!!


CaptCav,
Howdy and welcome to the forum! FWIW, that term..."Shank" (haven't heard that one in a while!) must have found it's way into the vernacular from Vietnam (as so many other terms did), because while I never heard it around the NCO Academy/Leadership Prep course for M551 School or in the M551 School itself (at Ft. Knox), I sure enough recall hearing it in G Troop, 2/11th ACR in RVN from time-to-time...
I'd give you odds that this word infiltrated the vocabulary of the 3rd ACR via some Viet Vet originally. Wink
Thanks for the pics, I liked seeing all the vehicles, including the "shanks"!

D.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
CaptCav
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2007
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:37 pm
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

Doug - I won't take any bets on the origin!! I'm pretty sure it came from the 11th in-country. During the years I was in the 3d ACR ('73-'76); the ranks were teeming with VN era 11th ACR alums. As a matter of fact, we always referred to them as "the Blackhorse Mafia", because there were so many officers & NCOs in the regiment, wearing the Blackhorse on their right shoulder.
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:54 pm
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

- CaptCav
Doug - I won't take any bets on the origin!! I'm pretty sure it came from the 11th in-country. During the years I was in the 3d ACR ('73-'76); the ranks were teeming with VN era 11th ACR alums. As a matter of fact, we always referred to them as "the Blackhorse Mafia", because there were so many officers & NCOs in the regiment, wearing the Blackhorse on their right shoulder.


"Blackhorse Mafia"...that's a keeper...we may need to commission a new sort of post-service patch...all sort of omerta-like and all. The club (when we had one, before we had to take over some aviation company's movie theatre on the way out of the country...Roy may remember that), and sometimes the patch, was occasionally referred to as the "soul pony", in the spirit of the day. Kind of a Curtis Mayfield take on things. Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Buq-Buq
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 04, 2006
Posts: 86

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:37 am
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

Roy, Doug, et al:

Great pictures from another era.

I was wondering about the guy in the first picture, Sp4 Champion. Do you know where he went from Fort Bliss? We had an SSG Champion in the Eaglehorse Squadron in the period 1979-1980; he was in H Company, 2nd Squadron, 11th Armored Cavalry. At the time, he was an M60A1 TC, and was known in the squadron as being a kick-ass tanker, and was highly respected. I looked for more pictures, but could only find one with SSG Champion, poor quality and very small.

I'm pretty certain that he would have been a 19E at that time; is it possible that he was a 19D in Ft. Bliss during '75-'76, and then an SSG 19E only a couple years later?

If I remember correctly, his H Company mount was painted in a Dual-Tex camo scheme (strangely, the only one in the squadron), very similar to the picture that you posted in another thread (I'll write a blurb in that thread as well, since it is possible that the vehicle in the photo is SSG Champion's tank: "M60A3 with squares!"). When we drew new M60A3s in Feb (??) 1980, the camo pattern went with the tank, and SSG Champion's A3 stayed in factory Forest Green until a squadron paint detail did all the squadron's equipment in the Fall of 1980.

Anyway, if it is not the same Champion, so be it. It was fun thinking about the Hawgs, and going back through some old pictures.


Mark Neukom
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:35 am
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

Hi Mark (the Buq-Buq)! Hi Folks!

- Buq-Buq

I was wondering about the guy in the first picture, Sp4 Champion. Do you know where he went from Fort Bliss?
Mark Neukom


Sorry Mark, I have no idea. The pictures came from CaptCav and were taken by him during his time as Troop Commander of G Troop. The only other info he sent with the photo was that Sp4 Champion and Sp4 Rooks were the best of friends and if you saw one, the other one would also be there.

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.


Last edited by Roy_A_Lingle on Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:01 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Buq-Buq
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 04, 2006
Posts: 86

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:50 am
Post subject: Re: G Troop, 3rd ACR, Ft. Bliss, Tx

Roy:

Yeah, I missed that you indicated CaptCav had provided the pictures. Thanks for the update; and my apologies to CaptCav.

And, speaking of CaptCav . . . perhaps he can shed more light on my query?


Mark Neukom
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum