±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 324
Total: 324
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Member Screenshots
03: Home
04: Photo Gallery
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Downloads
09: Community Forums
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Photo Gallery
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Member Screenshots
21: Home
22: Photo Gallery
23: Community Forums
24: Member Screenshots
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: Statistics
31: Home
32: Statistics
33: Member Screenshots
34: Member Screenshots
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Home
38: Home
39: Member Screenshots
40: Home
41: Member Screenshots
42: Downloads
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Home
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Member Screenshots
53: Home
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Home
58: Community Forums
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Member Screenshots
62: Community Forums
63: Member Screenshots
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Photo Gallery
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Community Forums
71: Member Screenshots
72: Photo Gallery
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: News
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Home
84: Member Screenshots
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Home
92: Community Forums
93: Home
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Home
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Member Screenshots
103: Home
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Photo Gallery
107: News
108: Photo Gallery
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Member Screenshots
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Downloads
118: Home
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Home
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Home
127: Home
128: Home
129: Member Screenshots
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Member Screenshots
133: Home
134: Member Screenshots
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Community Forums
138: Member Screenshots
139: Home
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Home
143: Community Forums
144: Photo Gallery
145: Home
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: Community Forums
151: Downloads
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Home
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Home
161: Photo Gallery
162: Photo Gallery
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Home
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Downloads
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Member Screenshots
183: Home
184: Photo Gallery
185: Community Forums
186: Home
187: Community Forums
188: Home
189: Community Forums
190: Home
191: Community Forums
192: Home
193: Statistics
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Downloads
198: Community Forums
199: Home
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Photo Gallery
203: Downloads
204: Home
205: Home
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Home
209: News
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Home
214: Community Forums
215: Member Screenshots
216: Home
217: Downloads
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Community Forums
222: Home
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Home
229: Community Forums
230: Home
231: Community Forums
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Downloads
236: Photo Gallery
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: Member Screenshots
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Home
251: Community Forums
252: Photo Gallery
253: Home
254: Home
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Member Screenshots
260: Home
261: Community Forums
262: Home
263: Home
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Home
267: Home
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Home
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Home
274: News Archive
275: Home
276: Member Screenshots
277: Home
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Member Screenshots
281: Your Account
282: Community Forums
283: Home
284: Community Forums
285: Downloads
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Your Account
289: Community Forums
290: Your Account
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Home
295: Home
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Home
299: Community Forums
300: Member Screenshots
301: Home
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Downloads
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Home
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Photo Gallery
311: Home
312: Home
313: Home
314: Member Screenshots
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Home
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Home
322: Community Forums
323: Home
324: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:36 am
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Just been looking at some images of the Taiwanese CM11 - detail & angle is not good but judging by the way the towing eye is sticking out some of them appear to have A2 hulls...

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:54 am
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- Doug_Kibbey

*I go to Taiwan from time-to-time and have been from the North end to the Southern tip. There's a chance I could get a pic if we knew where one of these things was and it's not too sensitive a military area...and the Taiwanese can be pretty sensitive about their military areas. I'd sure give it a shot and I'm not without contacts.


I'm currently interrogating two ROC army guys by email - they can be a tight-lipped but not above dropping hints like 'examine rear of CM11'

Anyone any good at searching the archives on here? A couple of years ago mention was made of a company in Belgium being given a conract to manufacture 152mm rounds for Taiwan. I mislaid my reference article...

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:54 am
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- Alf_Adams
Here is a photo of a similar vehicle that I took in a storage compound of the Patton Museum in 1999. Unfortunately I only took one shot of it, so I have no more details. I asked the staff about it, and was told that it was just a case of the museum having an extra M60A2 turret, with nowhere to put it, and an M48 hull with no turret, so they put them together. Perhaps someone with contacts at the Patton Museum can tell us if this vehicle is still there.


I believe that is a shot of the M60A2/M48 combo that is now at Zussman Range (MOUT site). the tensioner 'pully' is the key.

I have not seen any such combo hulls (besides Zussman Rg tank) with that pulley present.

Great photo, Thanks
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
CaptCav
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2007
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:56 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

"The tensioner pully is the key".

We OLD M-48 tankers know that "pully" would be the track tension idler.

Wink
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:38 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- CaptCav
"The tensioner pully is the key".

We OLD M-48 tankers know that "pully" would be the track tension idler.

Rolling Eyes


Idler didn't seem right, so made up the pully name.

Comp Idler on 'modern' tanks tends to be in the front and is more easily mistaken as 1st set of roadwheels. Apoligies to the 'OLD -Timers' Mr. Green
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:50 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- Dontos
Apoligies to the 'OLD -Timers' Mr. Green


I prefer the term "curmudgeon", myself. Evil or Very Mad
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:09 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

nice road trip, no traffic

1


2


3


4


5


6


7


8


9


10


11


12


13


14


15


16


17


18


19


20


21


22


23


24


25


26


27


28


29


30


31 What are these for??


Last edited by armyjunk2 on Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
CaptCav
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2007
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:16 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

It appears to be an M-48A1 hull - looks like it has the triangular-shaped driver's hatch.
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:34 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Maybe it's just me, but the turret seems to overhang the turret ring more on the 48 hull more than it does on the 60 hull, looks "sloppy". I'm not at home to check the ring diameters, but I'd guess they are different?

Really noticeable in these views:





Last edited by Doug_Kibbey on Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:37 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
CaptCav
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2007
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:37 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Funny you should bring that up. I was wondering if the M-60 and M-48 series had the same diameter turret ring?
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:44 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- CaptCav
Funny you should bring that up. I was wondering if the M-60 and M-48 series had the same diameter turret ring?


Well, here's a pic from 3rd AD (I think) Europe for comparison (not one of my own, but illustrates the relationship on the M60 hull). Better fit...
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:11 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

I think the turret rings were the same (85"?) the Pershing retained the 69" from the Sherman The M47 went up to 74 or so and the M48 went up again. I think the M60 was the same as the M48(Hence the plans to reuse M60 turrets on M48 chassis when the turrets were replaced by Starship turrets) But I'll have to check at home

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:20 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Picture 31 'What are these for?' Searchlight mounts

I think the Left Side Registration number may be real. Funnything is the Right Side one is the same except for thelast digit but appears to be a different application.

Notice the Right rear Fender marking "M48A5'?
I think I see the remains of Left rear Fender marking that have been painted over but I'm not sure

I wonder if the travel lock on the rear deck will work with the 152mm?

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:25 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

- bsmart
Picture 31 'What are these for?' Searchlight mounts

I think the Left Side Registration number may be real. Funnything is the Right Side one is the same except for thelast digit but appears to be a different application.

Notice the Right rear Fender marking "M48A5'?
I think I see the remains of Left rear Fender marking that have been painted over but I'm not sure

I wonder if the travel lock on the rear deck will work with the 152mm?


Yes, Bob...that's the searchlight mount on the vehicle left side, slaved to the main gun trunnion. (you can see it mounted in the pic I posted)


Last edited by Doug_Kibbey on Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:27 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:25 pm
Post subject: Re: JoeD's Frankenstein (M48A5/M60A2)

Could the box on the front have been a hydraulic hookup for a blade or mine roller/plow?

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 3 of 6
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum