±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 772
Total: 772
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Photo Gallery
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Photo Gallery
11: Home
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Home
17: Home
18: Home
19: Home
20: News
21: Community Forums
22: Member Screenshots
23: Photo Gallery
24: Member Screenshots
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Photo Gallery
29: Home
30: News Archive
31: Community Forums
32: Member Screenshots
33: Downloads
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Downloads
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Home
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: News Archive
53: News
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Home
58: News Archive
59: Downloads
60: Community Forums
61: Photo Gallery
62: Your Account
63: Community Forums
64: Photo Gallery
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Member Screenshots
68: Home
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: News
82: Community Forums
83: Home
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Home
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Downloads
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Member Screenshots
98: Home
99: Member Screenshots
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Home
105: News Archive
106: Member Screenshots
107: Community Forums
108: News Archive
109: Home
110: Member Screenshots
111: Member Screenshots
112: News Archive
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Home
116: Community Forums
117: Member Screenshots
118: Community Forums
119: Home
120: Downloads
121: Community Forums
122: Downloads
123: Community Forums
124: Statistics
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: News Archive
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Member Screenshots
134: Home
135: Home
136: Downloads
137: Home
138: Home
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Photo Gallery
143: Community Forums
144: Home
145: Home
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Downloads
149: Photo Gallery
150: Member Screenshots
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Member Screenshots
155: Photo Gallery
156: Community Forums
157: Home
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Member Screenshots
164: Community Forums
165: News Archive
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Member Screenshots
170: News
171: Member Screenshots
172: News Archive
173: Downloads
174: News Archive
175: Home
176: Community Forums
177: Member Screenshots
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Home
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Photo Gallery
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: News Archive
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Home
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Home
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Home
208: Home
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Home
212: Community Forums
213: Downloads
214: Member Screenshots
215: Home
216: Member Screenshots
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Home
220: Member Screenshots
221: Home
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Home
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Home
230: Member Screenshots
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: News Archive
234: Community Forums
235: News Archive
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Your Account
242: Photo Gallery
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Home
249: Member Screenshots
250: Community Forums
251: Downloads
252: Community Forums
253: News Archive
254: News Archive
255: Home
256: Home
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Home
260: Member Screenshots
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Member Screenshots
265: Community Forums
266: Member Screenshots
267: Community Forums
268: News
269: Community Forums
270: Downloads
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Home
275: Community Forums
276: Photo Gallery
277: Home
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Home
281: Home
282: Community Forums
283: Home
284: Downloads
285: Downloads
286: Photo Gallery
287: Home
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: Home
295: Community Forums
296: News Archive
297: Your Account
298: Community Forums
299: News Archive
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Member Screenshots
303: News Archive
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: News Archive
308: Home
309: Home
310: Home
311: Photo Gallery
312: Community Forums
313: Downloads
314: Community Forums
315: Member Screenshots
316: Community Forums
317: News
318: Home
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Photo Gallery
322: Home
323: Home
324: Member Screenshots
325: Community Forums
326: Photo Gallery
327: Community Forums
328: Downloads
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: News
332: Community Forums
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Photo Gallery
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Photo Gallery
339: Member Screenshots
340: Community Forums
341: Home
342: Community Forums
343: Home
344: Member Screenshots
345: Community Forums
346: News Archive
347: Home
348: News
349: News Archive
350: Community Forums
351: News Archive
352: Community Forums
353: Photo Gallery
354: Community Forums
355: Home
356: Home
357: Downloads
358: Community Forums
359: Downloads
360: Downloads
361: Member Screenshots
362: Member Screenshots
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Member Screenshots
368: Community Forums
369: News Archive
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Member Screenshots
373: Photo Gallery
374: Photo Gallery
375: Community Forums
376: News Archive
377: Member Screenshots
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Member Screenshots
382: Photo Gallery
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Photo Gallery
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Community Forums
391: Downloads
392: Member Screenshots
393: Community Forums
394: Member Screenshots
395: Community Forums
396: Downloads
397: Home
398: Photo Gallery
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Member Screenshots
403: Home
404: Home
405: Your Account
406: Member Screenshots
407: Community Forums
408: Member Screenshots
409: Home
410: News Archive
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: News Archive
414: Home
415: Home
416: Photo Gallery
417: News Archive
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Member Screenshots
423: Community Forums
424: Home
425: Home
426: Community Forums
427: LinkToUs
428: Member Screenshots
429: Home
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Home
434: Community Forums
435: Home
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Home
440: Community Forums
441: News
442: Supporters
443: Home
444: News
445: Photo Gallery
446: Community Forums
447: Photo Gallery
448: News Archive
449: Member Screenshots
450: Downloads
451: Photo Gallery
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Home
456: Community Forums
457: Member Screenshots
458: Photo Gallery
459: Home
460: Home
461: Home
462: Downloads
463: Home
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Photo Gallery
468: Downloads
469: Home
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Home
474: News
475: Home
476: Photo Gallery
477: Home
478: News
479: Community Forums
480: Home
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Home
485: News Archive
486: Community Forums
487: Home
488: News Archive
489: Community Forums
490: Member Screenshots
491: Home
492: Home
493: Home
494: Member Screenshots
495: Community Forums
496: Home
497: Home
498: Member Screenshots
499: Member Screenshots
500: Community Forums
501: Member Screenshots
502: Home
503: Downloads
504: Community Forums
505: Photo Gallery
506: Community Forums
507: Home
508: Downloads
509: News Archive
510: Member Screenshots
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Home
514: Community Forums
515: Downloads
516: Home
517: Community Forums
518: Photo Gallery
519: Downloads
520: Home
521: Community Forums
522: Home
523: Treasury
524: Home
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Member Screenshots
528: Home
529: Member Screenshots
530: Community Forums
531: Home
532: Home
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Member Screenshots
536: Home
537: Photo Gallery
538: Your Account
539: Community Forums
540: Member Screenshots
541: Community Forums
542: Statistics
543: News Archive
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Downloads
547: Home
548: Downloads
549: Photo Gallery
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Photo Gallery
553: Home
554: Member Screenshots
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Home
559: Community Forums
560: Member Screenshots
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: News Archive
565: Downloads
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Home
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Home
573: Home
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Member Screenshots
577: Home
578: Home
579: Home
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Home
583: Photo Gallery
584: Home
585: Downloads
586: Member Screenshots
587: News Archive
588: Community Forums
589: Home
590: Home
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Downloads
594: Home
595: Member Screenshots
596: Home
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: News Archive
600: Your Account
601: Home
602: Your Account
603: Community Forums
604: Downloads
605: Home
606: Home
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Downloads
611: Home
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Home
615: Downloads
616: Community Forums
617: News Archive
618: Member Screenshots
619: Home
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Member Screenshots
624: Home
625: Photo Gallery
626: Photo Gallery
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Home
630: Community Forums
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Home
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Home
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: News Archive
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Downloads
647: Community Forums
648: News Archive
649: Photo Gallery
650: Home
651: Home
652: Community Forums
653: Home
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Photo Gallery
658: News
659: Community Forums
660: Home
661: News Archive
662: Community Forums
663: Photo Gallery
664: Home
665: News Archive
666: Downloads
667: Downloads
668: Member Screenshots
669: Member Screenshots
670: Community Forums
671: Home
672: Community Forums
673: Community Forums
674: Community Forums
675: Member Screenshots
676: Community Forums
677: News Archive
678: Home
679: Community Forums
680: Community Forums
681: Community Forums
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Community Forums
685: Community Forums
686: Home
687: Home
688: Community Forums
689: Community Forums
690: Member Screenshots
691: Home
692: Member Screenshots
693: Home
694: Community Forums
695: Community Forums
696: Community Forums
697: Community Forums
698: Member Screenshots
699: Your Account
700: Community Forums
701: Community Forums
702: Home
703: Community Forums
704: Home
705: Photo Gallery
706: Community Forums
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Community Forums
710: Community Forums
711: Community Forums
712: News Archive
713: Home
714: News Archive
715: News
716: Community Forums
717: Downloads
718: Community Forums
719: Community Forums
720: Home
721: Community Forums
722: Community Forums
723: Photo Gallery
724: Community Forums
725: Community Forums
726: Community Forums
727: Community Forums
728: Community Forums
729: News
730: Community Forums
731: Community Forums
732: Home
733: Home
734: Community Forums
735: Home
736: Member Screenshots
737: Community Forums
738: Home
739: Downloads
740: News Archive
741: Community Forums
742: Photo Gallery
743: Community Forums
744: Community Forums
745: Photo Gallery
746: Community Forums
747: Downloads
748: Your Account
749: Your Account
750: Photo Gallery
751: Community Forums
752: Community Forums
753: Community Forums
754: Community Forums
755: Community Forums
756: Member Screenshots
757: Home
758: Downloads
759: Member Screenshots
760: Home
761: Member Screenshots
762: Community Forums
763: Community Forums
764: Home
765: Community Forums
766: Community Forums
767: Community Forums
768: Community Forums
769: Community Forums
770: Community Forums
771: Member Screenshots
772: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Panther? I think not!
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Tanklord
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 817
Location: Louisiana
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:51 pm
Post subject: Panther? I think not!

History Television

And we wonder why we have such a hard time explaining to people about the different tanks of WWII.



They are calling this a "Panther"

_________________
The only thing to do when a son-of-a-bitch looks
cross-eyed at you is to beat the hell out of him right
then and there
Back to top
View user's profile Yahoo Messenger
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:24 am
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

It has the Vietnam Tropical Kit fitted. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:19 am
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

But they painted it the wrong color. It should be

PINK

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:42 am
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

History Channel 'FAUX PAS'.... Rolling Eyes

I've noticed that 'they' like to use sound bytes of Abrams 'rolling' sounds on just about any type & era of Tank movement.

Also mis-IDing ,,,
the Challanger as an Abrams,
The M1 (105) as an M1A1,
The M1 (105) as an M1A2,
The M1A1 as an M1A2 SEP,.....
and most glaring of all, in 'Mail Call' (History Channel , mind you...)

,,,,Referring to the M50A1 Ontos as the M40 !!!! Shocked

I'm sure I could find more mistakes if I really tried.....

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Maple_Leaf_Eh
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 517

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:00 am
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

Well, not so fast with the rude remarks. While the episode is about Panthers, the picture on the page is clearly not a Panther. I think there was a Tank Overhaul on the Comet (?); one of the first in the series. When I search for Tank Overhaul on the History Channel page every episode comes up with the same picture and a different text.
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:54 am
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

- Maple_Leaf_Eh
Well, not so fast with the rude remarks. While the episode is about Panthers, the picture on the page is clearly not a Panther. I think there was a Tank Overhaul on the Comet (?); one of the first in the series. When I search for Tank Overhaul on the History Channel page every episode comes up with the same picture and a different text.


He has a point. It's a pretty esoteric topic and we're pretty lucky they even chose to do it...and let's face it, this is a tough audience. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:08 am
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

- Doug_Kibbey
- Maple_Leaf_Eh
Well, not so fast with the rude remarks. While the episode is about Panthers, the picture on the page is clearly not a Panther. I think there was a Tank Overhaul on the Comet (?); one of the first in the series. When I search for Tank Overhaul on the History Channel page every episode comes up with the same picture and a different text.


He has a point. It's a pretty esoteric topic and we're pretty lucky they even chose to do it...and let's face it, this is a tough audience. Wink


OKAY.....MAYBE, but .... Cool

I just expect a proper amount of research, and getting the facts straight before airing a program. There is an audience out there that deserves a certain level of authenticity & accuracy. Its the details that seem to be shortcutted.

...A tough audience? HELL YEAH. Nothing wrong with that....!!! Mr. Green

(stepping off my 'soapbox'...)

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Garry_Redmon
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 398
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:21 am
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

I have a friend who is good friends and works with Jacque Littlefield on his restoration projects. He was interviewed for the Tank Overhaul episode on the Panther, but his interview was cut before the final airing. Anyway, the writer doing the interview admitted he knew nothing about tanks. Based on what I see on TLC, THC and the Military Channel, this is par for the course for not only the writers, but the editors, directors and producers.

I don't know how many times I've seen film of Pz 38(t)'s or Pz I's or II's driving across the country side when the subject of the show is D-Day or the Battle of the Bulge or some other late-war battle.

I would like to see a series done on AFV's of the same caliber as the Wings series.

_________________
armorfortheages.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
oldertop
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
Posts: 76

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

I would like it if they'ed stick to things they are more familiar with like the history of popcorn and sodapop. what really tickled me was when the "experts" had the Spartans equipped with bronze shields while doing a "story" on the real 300. In my mind (military mind) all I could picture was this group of men with huge left arms that dragged on the ground while walking around leaning to the left when not carrying their shields, or the the one about how the Americans were the first to "snipe" against the Brits with their long rifles during the Revolutionary war, even the experts (serving militaty types) failed to read the historical diaries of American officers who remarked about their troops in formations taking loses from rifle fire from the Brits lines at 700 yards because of the german "Jagers" marksmen armed with their block rifles.


Last edited by oldertop on Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:10 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

I can't speak much for the Wings series since they moved it from Discovery/History channels to The Military Channel (You have to have the digital 'add on' and I don't have that on the TV I use the most))

But I don't think most of the Aviation footage is any better than the Armor footage. In The 'Dogfights' series they seem to use the same mix of F-100, F-4 and F-86 footage whenever they are talking about jets and the same P-51 and B-17 footage when when ever the subject is WWII Europe. The Pacific is all TBM Avengers and late model Hellcats. Except when it should be Avengers of Hellcats. Then they dig out SB2C Helldiver or Korean War F4U footage!

It's not that I mind seeing the footage, but I really wish they could try and find more appropriate footage.

I'm actually glad when they show Pz38(T)s When I'm doing the tours at Aberdeen I make it a point to explain that many German uints were equipped with Czech 35 & 38 tanks during the Blitzkreig campaigns. I can tell doubters to look closely at the footage without thinking of the context of the show. The same goes for generic U.S. footage. look at the details, what and how equipment is hung on the vehicles, what soldiers are carrying on their web gear, etc. The footage is 'ground truth' for when it was taken. What we sometimes need to figure out is when and where it was taken and what we are actually seeing

I like the 'history of popcorn' and 'How outhouses are built' but I can only take so many repeats of it. What I really wish they would stop is all the UFO, Nostrodamus, and History of organized Crime shows they run over, and over and over

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
piney
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 2330
Location: Republic of Southern New Jersey
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:43 pm
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

Best TV series I ever saw with appropriate use of footage was "The World at War" by the BBC many years ago and it had been done with the co-operation of the Imperial War Museum so just about every thing was right.

I am so tired of seeing T-6's, SBD's etc passed off as Japanese Zero's, it's ridiculous and when ever I see anything like that anymore I tend to discount the source Evil or Very Mad
Jeff Lewis
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

- piney
Best TV series I ever saw with appropriate use of footage was "The World at War" by the BBC many years ago and it had been done with the co-operation of the Imperial War Museum so just about every thing was right.

Jeff Lewis



An OUTSTANDING SERIES.... YOU ARE CORRECT!!!

There was a PBS series called 'ANZAC' which I thought was an excellent show. It was about the Aussies in WWI from Gallipoli to 11/11/18. If I remember there was a tank attack supported by the Aussies, using FT 17s if I recall correctly.

Anyone know of this series?

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
oldertop
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 20, 2006
Posts: 76

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Panther? I think not!

Why just this morning on the "Hitler channel" as my son calls it there was a "expert" and I quote "what kept the machine guns in action was a fresh supply of barrels" the only problem was the guns he was running his mouth about were M1917 water cooled. now I cut my "machine gun teeth" on M1919A3 air cooled which were a pain in the ass to change barrels, ya we carred one spare..theres nothing quick change about any of the 1917 or 19119 guns.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum