±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 745
Total: 745
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Photo Gallery
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Member Screenshots
13: Photo Gallery
14: Home
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Photo Gallery
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Photo Gallery
27: Home
28: Photo Gallery
29: Community Forums
30: Home
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Home
35: Photo Gallery
36: Community Forums
37: Home
38: Home
39: Downloads
40: Community Forums
41: Home
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Member Screenshots
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Photo Gallery
48: Community Forums
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Downloads
52: Your Account
53: Photo Gallery
54: Statistics
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Photo Gallery
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Photo Gallery
62: Home
63: Downloads
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Downloads
67: Home
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Member Screenshots
71: Home
72: Community Forums
73: Member Screenshots
74: Home
75: Photo Gallery
76: Home
77: Home
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Home
82: Photo Gallery
83: Community Forums
84: News Archive
85: Community Forums
86: Member Screenshots
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Member Screenshots
91: Community Forums
92: News
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Home
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Home
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: News Archive
108: Member Screenshots
109: Home
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Home
113: Home
114: Member Screenshots
115: Photo Gallery
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Community Forums
120: Photo Gallery
121: Photo Gallery
122: Photo Gallery
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Home
140: Photo Gallery
141: Photo Gallery
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: News
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Photo Gallery
149: Home
150: Home
151: Home
152: Community Forums
153: Home
154: Photo Gallery
155: Your Account
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Photo Gallery
162: News Archive
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Member Screenshots
167: Photo Gallery
168: Photo Gallery
169: Member Screenshots
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: News
174: Photo Gallery
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Home
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: News
183: Community Forums
184: Home
185: Photo Gallery
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: Home
189: Member Screenshots
190: Statistics
191: News Archive
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Home
199: Photo Gallery
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Photo Gallery
203: Community Forums
204: Photo Gallery
205: Photo Gallery
206: Downloads
207: Community Forums
208: Member Screenshots
209: Home
210: Photo Gallery
211: Photo Gallery
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Home
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Photo Gallery
221: Photo Gallery
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Downloads
229: Member Screenshots
230: Home
231: Downloads
232: Community Forums
233: Photo Gallery
234: News Archive
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Your Account
238: Photo Gallery
239: Home
240: Community Forums
241: Downloads
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Photo Gallery
245: Home
246: Community Forums
247: Photo Gallery
248: Community Forums
249: Downloads
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Downloads
253: Home
254: Community Forums
255: Member Screenshots
256: Community Forums
257: Home
258: Photo Gallery
259: News Archive
260: Home
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Home
264: Community Forums
265: Home
266: Home
267: Home
268: Photo Gallery
269: Photo Gallery
270: Community Forums
271: Downloads
272: Community Forums
273: Home
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Home
280: Downloads
281: Home
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: News
285: Home
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Home
289: Community Forums
290: Home
291: News Archive
292: Member Screenshots
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: Home
296: Home
297: Community Forums
298: News
299: Community Forums
300: Downloads
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Home
304: Home
305: Home
306: Home
307: Community Forums
308: Home
309: Home
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Photo Gallery
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Home
316: Community Forums
317: Photo Gallery
318: Community Forums
319: Home
320: Photo Gallery
321: News Archive
322: Home
323: Home
324: News Archive
325: Photo Gallery
326: Photo Gallery
327: Community Forums
328: Home
329: Community Forums
330: Photo Gallery
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Photo Gallery
334: Community Forums
335: Home
336: Downloads
337: Home
338: Home
339: Home
340: Home
341: Downloads
342: Photo Gallery
343: Photo Gallery
344: Photo Gallery
345: Photo Gallery
346: Photo Gallery
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Home
355: News Archive
356: Home
357: Home
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Home
362: Photo Gallery
363: Community Forums
364: Photo Gallery
365: Downloads
366: Home
367: Member Screenshots
368: Community Forums
369: Home
370: Community Forums
371: Home
372: Community Forums
373: Home
374: Community Forums
375: Home
376: Photo Gallery
377: Downloads
378: Home
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Photo Gallery
382: Photo Gallery
383: Home
384: Home
385: Home
386: Home
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Home
391: Home
392: Community Forums
393: Home
394: Community Forums
395: Home
396: Home
397: Home
398: Home
399: Home
400: Home
401: Home
402: Home
403: Home
404: Home
405: Home
406: Home
407: Home
408: Home
409: Home
410: Home
411: Home
412: Home
413: Home
414: Home
415: Home
416: Home
417: Home
418: Home
419: Home
420: Home
421: Home
422: Home
423: Home
424: Home
425: Home
426: Home
427: Home
428: Home
429: Home
430: Home
431: Home
432: Home
433: Home
434: Home
435: Home
436: Home
437: Home
438: Home
439: Home
440: Home
441: Home
442: Home
443: Home
444: Home
445: Home
446: Home
447: Home
448: Home
449: Home
450: Home
451: Home
452: Home
453: Home
454: Home
455: Home
456: Home
457: Home
458: Home
459: Home
460: Home
461: Home
462: Home
463: Home
464: Home
465: Home
466: Home
467: Home
468: Home
469: Home
470: Home
471: Home
472: Home
473: Home
474: Home
475: Home
476: Home
477: Home
478: Home
479: Home
480: Home
481: Home
482: Home
483: Home
484: Home
485: Home
486: Home
487: Home
488: Home
489: Home
490: Home
491: Home
492: Home
493: Home
494: Home
495: Home
496: Home
497: Home
498: Home
499: Home
500: Home
501: Home
502: Home
503: Home
504: Home
505: Home
506: Home
507: Home
508: Home
509: Home
510: Home
511: Home
512: Home
513: Home
514: Home
515: Home
516: Community Forums
517: Home
518: Home
519: Home
520: Home
521: Home
522: Home
523: Home
524: Home
525: Home
526: Home
527: Home
528: Home
529: Home
530: Home
531: Home
532: Home
533: Home
534: Home
535: Home
536: Home
537: Home
538: Photo Gallery
539: Home
540: Home
541: Community Forums
542: Home
543: Home
544: Home
545: Home
546: Home
547: Home
548: Home
549: Home
550: Home
551: Photo Gallery
552: Home
553: Home
554: Home
555: Home
556: Home
557: Home
558: Home
559: Home
560: Home
561: Home
562: Home
563: Home
564: Home
565: Home
566: Home
567: Home
568: Home
569: Home
570: Home
571: Home
572: Home
573: Home
574: Home
575: Home
576: Home
577: Home
578: Home
579: News
580: Home
581: Home
582: Home
583: Home
584: Home
585: Home
586: Home
587: Home
588: Home
589: Home
590: Home
591: Home
592: Home
593: Home
594: Home
595: Home
596: Home
597: Home
598: Home
599: Home
600: Home
601: Home
602: Community Forums
603: Home
604: Home
605: Home
606: Home
607: Home
608: Home
609: Home
610: Home
611: Home
612: Home
613: Home
614: Home
615: Home
616: Home
617: Home
618: Home
619: Home
620: Home
621: Home
622: Home
623: Home
624: Home
625: Home
626: Home
627: Home
628: Home
629: Home
630: Home
631: Home
632: Home
633: Home
634: Home
635: Home
636: Home
637: Home
638: Home
639: Home
640: Home
641: Home
642: Home
643: Home
644: Home
645: Home
646: Home
647: Home
648: Home
649: Home
650: Home
651: Home
652: Home
653: Home
654: Home
655: Home
656: Home
657: Home
658: Home
659: Home
660: Home
661: Home
662: Home
663: Home
664: Home
665: Home
666: Home
667: Home
668: Home
669: Home
670: Home
671: Home
672: Home
673: Home
674: Home
675: Home
676: Home
677: Home
678: Home
679: Home
680: Home
681: Home
682: Home
683: Home
684: Home
685: Home
686: Home
687: Home
688: Home
689: Home
690: Home
691: Home
692: Home
693: Home
694: Member Screenshots
695: Home
696: Home
697: Home
698: Home
699: Home
700: Home
701: Home
702: Home
703: Home
704: Home
705: Home
706: Home
707: Home
708: Home
709: Home
710: Home
711: Home
712: Home
713: Home
714: Home
715: Home
716: Home
717: Home
718: Home
719: Home
720: Home
721: Home
722: Home
723: Home
724: Home
725: Home
726: Home
727: Home
728: Home
729: Home
730: Home
731: Home
732: Home
733: Home
734: Home
735: Home
736: Home
737: Home
738: Home
739: Home
740: Home
741: Home
742: Home
743: Community Forums
744: Home
745: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
M48A5 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:36 pm
Post subject: M48A5 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

This is my next objective. I wasnt able to get in today (looks like I need to try & call ahead to see if I can get in), but was able to take some through-fence shots... I at least confirmed that they have an M48 Patton - can anyone tell if it is an A5 model? Only tank in DC I am aware of...







Neil


Last edited by Neil_Baumgardner on Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:52 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:56 pm
Post subject: Re: M48 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

It's been upgunned, but the cupola is not right for an A5. I'd have to check about the air cleaners and such, but I have my doubts about those.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:05 pm
Post subject: Re: M48 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

I remember once looking through an M48A5 TM and it mentioned a version with this cupola. All of the ones I ever saw were the low-profile cupola. But I do believe this is an M48A5 with the cupola that was on the A3.

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
tanker2010
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 264
Location: Kansas City, Mo.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:57 pm
Post subject: Re: M48 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

Yes, it's an early A5. The A5 was basicly a M48A3 MOD B with a 105MM. The ones with the Urdan cupola were a M48A5PI.
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
binder001
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 363

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:22 pm
Post subject: Re: M48 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

Interesting shots. I didn't know any of the early M48A5s got saved. When the weather and sun angles allow, how about some frontal shots?

Thanks for posting
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2069
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:37 pm
Post subject: Re: M48 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

This one is rare,

IAW the TM only SN's 3001 to 3374 came with the Modified (bulged hatch) M1 cupola. She definately was a former A3, still has the 90mm travel lock. Air cleaners are correct for an early A5 too, Even the 4 tone paint is period to include the black star. Surpised she survived the big AVLB conversion/production at Anniston for the Division '86 requirements. Great find Neil !

If you can, get the SN to see if the TM is correct, should be the same place as the M60.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:28 pm
Post subject: Re: M48 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

The problem wasnt the sun & angles but access! You normally cant get inside the retirement home grounds unless you are a resident or a visitor... So I took those pics through a fence...

I'll try to call their public affairs folks this week to see if I can somehow get in - maybe this weekend if they'll let me...

FWIW, TACOM says the SN is 554.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:28 pm
Post subject: Re: M48 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

BTW, I just got set up to check this out tomorrow afternoon.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:32 pm
Post subject: Re: M48 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

- Joe_D
This one is rare,

IAW the TM only SN's 3001 to 3374 came with the Modified (bulged hatch) M1 cupola. She definately was a former A3, still has the 90mm travel lock. Air cleaners are correct for an early A5 too, Even the 4 tone paint is period to include the black star. Surpised she survived the big AVLB conversion/production at Anniston for the Division '86 requirements. Great find Neil !

If you can, get the SN to see if the TM is correct, should be the same place as the M60.


You hit the nail on the head as always Joe - this one is SN A3008.















I couldnt find an RN painted on it anywhere, except for "008" which (partially) matches the SN.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2069
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:57 am
Post subject: Re: M48A5 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

Thanks for the update Neil,

We can assume this is the 8th M48A5 made. Makes me wonder if She came from Aberdeen after the school house finished with her. Would explain the low number and the great condition She's in. I'm not tracking M48A5's like I do the 60 series but I don't think any of the others still around are the early models with the M1 cupola. Might be one of a very small number left (Maybe the only one Shocked ).

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Tom_Willoughby
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:01 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A5 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

My unit actually used one like that for a weekend gunnery at Indiantown Gap in PA. It was the mid 80s. The tanks belonged to the PA Guard. So some of them did end up in Reserve units. Most of the 48A5s I saw or crewed had low profile cupolas, and top loading aluminum air cleaners. In the late 80s right before we gave up the 48s some new rebuilds arrived at Fort Drum MATES, they had top loading armored air cleaners and non directional tracks. Rumor had it that these were slated for DIVAD chassis but after the program had been cancel they stayed tanks.

Tom Willoughby
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2069
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:28 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A5 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

Hey Tom,

One of those FT Drum 48's you mention is now a static display outside Chattannooga TN. Thought you'd like to know.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Tom_Willoughby
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:15 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A5 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

Joe,

Thats a better fate then a lot of them got dumped in the ocean as artificial reefs. M60s and M551s as well. It was called Reef EX. Quite a shame.

Tom
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:52 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A5 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

BTW, I just got an e-mail from a gentleman who appears to have been tracking AFVs in the VA/DC/MD/PA area since the 90s (in some cases the 70s!). According to him there is an M47 Patton in a DC playground I need to go investigate.

He also identified an M60A3 in Grasonville MD, and M114s in Cumberland and Gaithersburg MD. I am incorporating into register V3.0...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:43 pm
Post subject: Re: M48A5 Patton at the Armed Forces Retirement Home

- Neil_Baumgardner
BTW, I just got an e-mail from a gentleman who appears to have been tracking AFVs in the VA/DC/MD/PA area since the 90s (in some cases the 70s!). According to him there is an M47 Patton in a DC playground I need to go investigate.

He also identified an M60A3 in Grasonville MD, and M114s in Cumberland and Gaithersburg MD. I am incorporating into register V3.0...

Neil


Neil - I can check on Gaithersburg at lunchtime if you send me an address. And I have family contacts in Grasonville if you have at least a partial location (It ain't that big a place Rolling Eyes )

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum