±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 592
Total: 592
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Member Screenshots
04: Community Forums
05: Home
06: Home
07: Home
08: Member Screenshots
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Home
12: Community Forums
13: Downloads
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Home
17: Community Forums
18: Member Screenshots
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Home
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Home
27: News Archive
28: Member Screenshots
29: Home
30: Photo Gallery
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Home
37: Community Forums
38: Member Screenshots
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Member Screenshots
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: News Archive
50: Photo Gallery
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Downloads
54: Member Screenshots
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Downloads
60: Photo Gallery
61: Photo Gallery
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Home
65: Member Screenshots
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Home
69: Home
70: Photo Gallery
71: News
72: Downloads
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Photo Gallery
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Member Screenshots
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Community Forums
88: Downloads
89: Home
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Home
93: Community Forums
94: News Archive
95: Statistics
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Photo Gallery
101: Member Screenshots
102: Member Screenshots
103: Downloads
104: Member Screenshots
105: Member Screenshots
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Home
109: Downloads
110: Photo Gallery
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Photo Gallery
116: Community Forums
117: Member Screenshots
118: Member Screenshots
119: Community Forums
120: Home
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Home
124: LinkToUs
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Member Screenshots
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Statistics
135: Community Forums
136: Member Screenshots
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Home
140: Community Forums
141: Member Screenshots
142: Community Forums
143: Downloads
144: Photo Gallery
145: Member Screenshots
146: Community Forums
147: News Archive
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Downloads
163: Member Screenshots
164: Community Forums
165: Photo Gallery
166: Member Screenshots
167: News
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Home
172: Home
173: Member Screenshots
174: Member Screenshots
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: News
181: Home
182: Photo Gallery
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Tell a Friend
189: Community Forums
190: Home
191: Member Screenshots
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Home
195: Home
196: Community Forums
197: Member Screenshots
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Photo Gallery
201: Community Forums
202: Home
203: News Archive
204: Community Forums
205: Photo Gallery
206: Member Screenshots
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Member Screenshots
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Downloads
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Member Screenshots
217: Member Screenshots
218: Member Screenshots
219: Community Forums
220: Member Screenshots
221: Home
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Member Screenshots
227: Photo Gallery
228: Member Screenshots
229: Member Screenshots
230: Community Forums
231: Photo Gallery
232: Photo Gallery
233: Home
234: Photo Gallery
235: Community Forums
236: Downloads
237: Community Forums
238: Member Screenshots
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Member Screenshots
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: News Archive
247: Community Forums
248: Member Screenshots
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Member Screenshots
252: Member Screenshots
253: Downloads
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: News Archive
258: Photo Gallery
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: News Archive
262: Photo Gallery
263: News Archive
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Photo Gallery
267: Downloads
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Member Screenshots
276: Community Forums
277: Member Screenshots
278: Home
279: Member Screenshots
280: Member Screenshots
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Member Screenshots
290: Member Screenshots
291: Member Screenshots
292: Community Forums
293: Member Screenshots
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Member Screenshots
300: Community Forums
301: Member Screenshots
302: News Archive
303: Photo Gallery
304: Community Forums
305: Home
306: Community Forums
307: Member Screenshots
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Member Screenshots
311: News Archive
312: Member Screenshots
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Photo Gallery
318: Member Screenshots
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Member Screenshots
327: Home
328: Photo Gallery
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Downloads
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Photo Gallery
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Member Screenshots
346: Downloads
347: Community Forums
348: Member Screenshots
349: Community Forums
350: Member Screenshots
351: Home
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Member Screenshots
355: Community Forums
356: Tell a Friend
357: Community Forums
358: Downloads
359: Photo Gallery
360: Member Screenshots
361: Member Screenshots
362: Community Forums
363: News Archive
364: Member Screenshots
365: Community Forums
366: Photo Gallery
367: Member Screenshots
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Downloads
371: Community Forums
372: Member Screenshots
373: Member Screenshots
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Photo Gallery
378: Community Forums
379: Downloads
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Downloads
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Home
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Community Forums
391: Statistics
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Treasury
395: Photo Gallery
396: Home
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Home
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Downloads
406: Community Forums
407: Home
408: News Archive
409: LinkToUs
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Member Screenshots
413: Home
414: Photo Gallery
415: Statistics
416: Community Forums
417: Home
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: Photo Gallery
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Home
426: Photo Gallery
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: News Archive
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Photo Gallery
437: Member Screenshots
438: Photo Gallery
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Home
444: Member Screenshots
445: Member Screenshots
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Downloads
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Downloads
452: Member Screenshots
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Community Forums
456: Photo Gallery
457: Home
458: Home
459: Member Screenshots
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Photo Gallery
466: Photo Gallery
467: Community Forums
468: Member Screenshots
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: News Archive
472: Downloads
473: Search
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Home
477: Home
478: News Archive
479: Photo Gallery
480: Member Screenshots
481: Community Forums
482: Home
483: Community Forums
484: Downloads
485: Downloads
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: News Archive
492: Home
493: Community Forums
494: Downloads
495: Home
496: Community Forums
497: News
498: Community Forums
499: News Archive
500: Member Screenshots
501: Home
502: Home
503: Home
504: Home
505: Contact
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Home
510: Community Forums
511: Downloads
512: Home
513: Home
514: Home
515: Community Forums
516: News Archive
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Member Screenshots
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Photo Gallery
529: Member Screenshots
530: Photo Gallery
531: Photo Gallery
532: Downloads
533: Photo Gallery
534: Member Screenshots
535: Home
536: Community Forums
537: Home
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Member Screenshots
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Member Screenshots
549: Community Forums
550: News Archive
551: Community Forums
552: Photo Gallery
553: Home
554: Downloads
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Home
560: Member Screenshots
561: Community Forums
562: Photo Gallery
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Photo Gallery
569: Member Screenshots
570: Home
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: News Archive
576: Community Forums
577: Photo Gallery
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Downloads
581: Member Screenshots
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: News Archive
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Member Screenshots
592: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:05 pm
Post subject: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

Hello,

very recently updated on his Webshot account, these are photos from the Saumur Museum, taken by a very good friend. He took them in April.
These albums show the vast majority of the tanks and spare parts stored outside and which can only be seen "behind the fence". These are all private albums which will not appear on the albums list. If you find any mistake or can help to identify some vehicles, turrets or parts, please leave a comment.

Here are the albums :

These ones show the vehicles which are stored in 5 zones outside the museum buildings :











Spare parts, turrets, tracks, main guns etc.. and some artillery !!


_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

Thanks for showing the pics P-O! Looks like not a whole lot has changed since we visited, except for maybe a few items.

FYI, the French armored car behind the building is the Crotale carrier or APC variant, as we identified it before.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:18 am
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

I've seen that they moved and repainted the T-54B which was close to the Chinese Type 653A TRV and the M48 AVLB. The Panther Ausf. G got some work too.

For the vehicle identified as "Crotale APC", I'm not sure it is. Here is a photo of the real vehicle with the missiles and radar, which shows several differences :



Here is a photo of the vehicle at Saumur :

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2456092630101845556YdICGp

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

Okay, got me then! I dunno what it is!

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

Hi Folks!

- Neil_Baumgardner

Okay, got me then! I dunno what it is!


That vehicle has me stumped also. Looked through my collection of clippings and books and I didn't find anything that looks like that vehicle.

Could it be a proto-type?

No spot report this time. Sad
Sgt, Scouts out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:09 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

I'm thinking prototype too - particularly with that ad-hoc looking driver's station. I almost want to say I have seen it before, but I may just be thinking of the Colonial Marines APC from Aliens Wink

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

- Neil_Baumgardner
I almost want to say I have seen it before, but I may just be thinking of the Colonial Marines APC from Aliens Wink

Neil


They do have some movie props in this museum (fake Panther and SdKfz..) so.. why not? Wink

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

- Neil_Baumgardner
I'm thinking prototype too - particularly with that ad-hoc looking driver's station. I almost want to say I have seen it before, but I may just be thinking of the Colonial Marines APC from Aliens Wink

Neil


Close... its one of the Panhard M4 prototypes.

Incidentally the previous image Hotchkiss Sanitätspanzer Kurz is incorrect - its a Mörserträger Kurz

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

Jim,

many thanks for your help, as usual. Maybe there are other mistakes?
Could you try to identify the various unknown turrets (unknown to me..) in the spare parts, turrets, tracks gallery please?

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

I'll give it a go...

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

ERC-20 turret

www.jedsite.info/afv/e...intro.html

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:23 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

AMX-10 TMC-81 turret

www.jedsite.info/fullt...intro.html

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

AMX-40 turret (the bofors armed version of the AMX-13)

www.jedsite.info/tanks...intro.html

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

Many thanks again, Jim.

Any ideas for the following ones ?







(definitely not a Panther turret..)



(the one beside the Wolverine turret, which seems to be French..)


_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Saumur "behind the fence" : storage and spare parts

- the_shadock
Many thanks again, Jim.

Any ideas for the following ones ?





That, I am almost sure is one of the ACRA test turrets. I think it was the one mounted on the M47. I'm still sifting through my stuff to locate a reference for it.

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum