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M3 update for Shaddock...
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SFC_Jeff_Button
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:49 am
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This M3 Lee, is located at 4ID museum and I saw you have it posted. However I didn't know just how much you had on this particular vehicle so I decided to start some research on it. Just a quick look at it and I could see that it still has an engine,(radial). Both barrels seem to have been torched to make them in-operable. The rear tow lugs both have 4428 stamped into them but the differatial coevr up front has 3411 stamped. I suspect that the diff cover is from another M3/M4 possibly. Does anyone else see anything of note? Once I get more detailed information on this vehicle, I will add it to this post.

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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: M3 update for Shaddock...
Hi Jeff: S/N 4428 should have R/N 3058019 by my reckoning, but Joe probably has the definitive info. The tow lugs are the right place for the S/N, and this tank has the appropriate late features like the grouser box on the glacis, driver's periscope, and engine compartment rear. KL

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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:32 am
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Hey Kurt, good to hear from you again,
I planned on sending this info to Joe very shortly and see what his take on the info is. However my parents are in town for a visit so I dont have much time for the computer, I'm lucky to get on here now.
I've found most Reg numbers on the sides of armor are bogus. I just don't understand why museums don't research what they have better, you'd think they would want to represent the vehicles acurately as possible.

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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 5:15 am Post subject: Re: M3 update for Shaddock...
I do not know about conversion to command tanks- in fact that was new to me-, but the majority of M3s lived on as ARVs and artillery tractors. Jens O.

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: Re: M3 update for Shaddock...
Hello all, Jeff, thanks for the pics and information. I'll add these info in the next update of the file, wich will be published soon. Kurt, if your information are confirmed, I'll add them too. Regards, P-O _________________ soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates

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