±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 280
Total: 280
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Home
12: News Archive
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Your Account
22: Home
23: Community Forums
24: Home
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Home
29: Your Account
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Photo Gallery
35: Downloads
36: Community Forums
37: Statistics
38: Community Forums
39: Home
40: Community Forums
41: Your Account
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Your Account
46: Home
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Community Forums
53: Home
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Home
58: Community Forums
59: Home
60: Photo Gallery
61: Photo Gallery
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Downloads
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: Community Forums
73: Statistics
74: Community Forums
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Photo Gallery
78: Downloads
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Community Forums
82: Home
83: News Archive
84: Member Screenshots
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: News Archive
90: Community Forums
91: Home
92: Home
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Home
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Home
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Home
109: Member Screenshots
110: Home
111: Home
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Home
115: Community Forums
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Home
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Photo Gallery
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Downloads
128: Home
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Home
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Home
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Home
144: Home
145: Home
146: Home
147: Home
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Downloads
154: Community Forums
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Photo Gallery
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Downloads
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Home
167: Statistics
168: Community Forums
169: Downloads
170: Community Forums
171: Downloads
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Home
175: Photo Gallery
176: Community Forums
177: Downloads
178: Home
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Home
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: Community Forums
187: Downloads
188: News Archive
189: Community Forums
190: Photo Gallery
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Statistics
194: Home
195: Home
196: Photo Gallery
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Home
200: Home
201: Home
202: Home
203: Community Forums
204: Home
205: Community Forums
206: Downloads
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Home
213: Photo Gallery
214: Community Forums
215: Home
216: News
217: Home
218: Home
219: Member Screenshots
220: Photo Gallery
221: Home
222: Home
223: Community Forums
224: Home
225: Home
226: Home
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Home
230: Photo Gallery
231: Home
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Home
235: Photo Gallery
236: News Archive
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Home
242: Your Account
243: Community Forums
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Home
256: Community Forums
257: Home
258: Home
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Downloads
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Downloads
270: Home
271: Member Screenshots
272: Community Forums
273: Home
274: Home
275: Community Forums
276: Home
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:31 am
Post subject: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Ann Arbor (Lodi Twp)

AL, 3230 S Wagner Road
S/N 4389A (tow lug and engine deck/hull)
R/N 9B8985 on glacis, JJ01UZ painted on air cleaner
Bumper codes 38 1 ^ 246 A31
Also a UH-1, M135 series truck, and M5 3-inch gun
maps.live.com/default....&encType=1

Ypsilanti
VFW, 616 W Michigan Avenue
S/N 4411A (tow lug and engine deck/hull)
R/N 03A01970 on glacis and painted on air cleaner
Bumper codes 38 1 ^ 246 A6
maps.live.com/default....&encType=1

And this is the M60 in Westland MI, as reported earlier.
maps.live.com/default....&encType=1
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
HellonwheelsV100
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 15, 2007
Posts: 67

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

There was a guy out here in OR that had an M60A1. I have no idea how he managed to get ahold of it. It was in excellent shape, and he ran it around the dunes all the time. I think someone in CA bought it after he passed away- not Littlefield either. Would love to know the story behind that one. I will post the pics I took of it when I find them.

_________________
Dave C
MVPA, MVCCO
Portland OR
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Thanks Kurt!

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2068
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:38 am
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Dave C said:

There was a guy out here in OR that had an M60A1. I have no idea how he managed to get ahold of it.


It seems that most civilian owned M60A1's came from USMC stock, not sure if they are less restrictive than the Army, I'd bet this one fell in that category. IIRC Mr. Littlefield's is one of the few Army (if only) M60A1's in civilian hands.

Thanks for the updates Kurt,

Interesting that the TACOM list got the Ann Arbor VFW Post 423 SN so wrong (They list her as 4410A). How do you confuse those two numbers Confused ?

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

[quote="Joe_D"]


Interesting that the TACOM list got the Ann Arbor VFW Post 423 SN so wrong (They list her as 4410A). How do you confuse those two numbers Confused ?


Maybe it has something to do with the mixed-up registrations? The two tanks were clearly in the same unit. The stenciled R/Ns were both the same style and location. On one it matched the stamped R/N, on one it didn't. The non-matching one had the wrong S/N on the list. I doubt the last painters just made up a R/N, so clearly there was something amiss with the paperwork at some point.

Neil, where is 4389A supposed to be?

BTW, I have a confirmed tank in the area that isn't on the list, possible M60A1/A3. I might be able to check it out this weekend.

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2068
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Kurt,

I am not tracking 4289A anymore since you confirmed the Ann Arbor Tank SN. The TACOM list doesn't have her either, but doesn't mean she's not out there since all the tanks in front of armory's are still in the Army's inventory.

There are two tanks in Michigan I'd love to check out,

One is listed as an M60, SN 17 in Mount Clemens, Lat/Long 42.565796, -82.978025. From a satellite recon she appears to be an A3. Curious if she's one of the Pilot A3's.

The other is listed as M60A3 SN 5 in Birch Run. Lat/Long 43.259833, -83.776083. This one appears to still have the older Passive sights along with an uncapped searchlight receptacle. But my pictures are kinda grainy.

Being they are so close to Detroit there's a good chance they are Pilot models. If your travels take you that way I'd be most interested in your findings.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Here's a couple of pics of the Freeland PA M60A2 passed on to me by Tom Dinackus.





I also have a pic of the Charlottesville NGIC T-64 and some M59/84 pics he passed on that I will post...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2068
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Thanks Neil for sharing,

The hull is correct for the serial number listed. Pretty sure the TACOM list is a double listing of the same tank. Google'n VFW Post 473 I only get some minor mentions in the news but no recent stuff other than an address. Willing to bet the City signed for the tank when time to verify the location and no one from the ALP was around.

Kurt,

On that RN for the Ypsilanti tank, you sure that couldn't be 09A01970 and whoever painted the RN got it wrong ??? Tanks should start with 09 or 9 back then until they changed to the Alphanumeric 6 digit RN's later. It'd be the first 03 I've ever heard of between M48's and M60's.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:31 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

- Joe_D


On that RN for the Ypsilanti tank, you sure that couldn't be 09A01970 and whoever painted the RN got it wrong ??? Tanks should start with 09 or 9 back then until they changed to the Alphanumeric 6 digit RN's later. It'd be the first 03 I've ever heard of between M48's and M60's.



I'm pretty sure that's right but now you make me doubt myself . . . Unfortunately I didn't have a camera. . .

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum