±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 343
Total: 343
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Community Forums
11: Your Account
12: Home
13: Downloads
14: Photo Gallery
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Photo Gallery
19: Photo Gallery
20: Home
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: News Archive
25: Home
26: Photo Gallery
27: Photo Gallery
28: Member Screenshots
29: Downloads
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Photo Gallery
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Photo Gallery
40: Statistics
41: Community Forums
42: Photo Gallery
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Photo Gallery
46: Community Forums
47: Photo Gallery
48: Photo Gallery
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Home
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Downloads
59: News Archive
60: Community Forums
61: Home
62: Downloads
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Photo Gallery
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Member Screenshots
70: Member Screenshots
71: Community Forums
72: Member Screenshots
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Home
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: Downloads
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Member Screenshots
88: Downloads
89: Statistics
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: Your Account
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Community Forums
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: News Archive
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Photo Gallery
111: Downloads
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Photo Gallery
117: Member Screenshots
118: Community Forums
119: Photo Gallery
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: Home
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Photo Gallery
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Downloads
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: News Archive
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Photo Gallery
147: Photo Gallery
148: News
149: Community Forums
150: Photo Gallery
151: Home
152: News Archive
153: Community Forums
154: Downloads
155: Photo Gallery
156: Downloads
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Photo Gallery
160: Community Forums
161: News Archive
162: Photo Gallery
163: Community Forums
164: Home
165: Statistics
166: Home
167: Home
168: Community Forums
169: News
170: Member Screenshots
171: Downloads
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Home
175: Photo Gallery
176: Member Screenshots
177: Home
178: Community Forums
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Member Screenshots
182: Photo Gallery
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Photo Gallery
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Photo Gallery
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Photo Gallery
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Downloads
196: Downloads
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Home
200: News Archive
201: Home
202: Photo Gallery
203: Photo Gallery
204: Home
205: Community Forums
206: Photo Gallery
207: Community Forums
208: Home
209: Downloads
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Member Screenshots
213: Photo Gallery
214: Member Screenshots
215: Home
216: Community Forums
217: Downloads
218: Community Forums
219: Downloads
220: Community Forums
221: Home
222: Photo Gallery
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Home
226: Member Screenshots
227: Downloads
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Home
231: Home
232: Home
233: Photo Gallery
234: Downloads
235: Photo Gallery
236: Statistics
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Home
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Statistics
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Home
248: Member Screenshots
249: Downloads
250: Statistics
251: Downloads
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Home
255: Member Screenshots
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Photo Gallery
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Photo Gallery
267: Photo Gallery
268: Member Screenshots
269: Downloads
270: Community Forums
271: Downloads
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Photo Gallery
275: Community Forums
276: Downloads
277: Community Forums
278: Downloads
279: Home
280: Downloads
281: Community Forums
282: Photo Gallery
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Member Screenshots
289: Home
290: Downloads
291: Member Screenshots
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Home
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Member Screenshots
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Statistics
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Photo Gallery
312: Home
313: Community Forums
314: Home
315: Photo Gallery
316: Photo Gallery
317: Community Forums
318: Home
319: Member Screenshots
320: Statistics
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Member Screenshots
324: Member Screenshots
325: Photo Gallery
326: Community Forums
327: Home
328: Statistics
329: Community Forums
330: Photo Gallery
331: Community Forums
332: Downloads
333: Statistics
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Member Screenshots
338: Photo Gallery
339: Downloads
340: Community Forums
341: Downloads
342: News
343: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:31 am
Post subject: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Ann Arbor (Lodi Twp)

AL, 3230 S Wagner Road
S/N 4389A (tow lug and engine deck/hull)
R/N 9B8985 on glacis, JJ01UZ painted on air cleaner
Bumper codes 38 1 ^ 246 A31
Also a UH-1, M135 series truck, and M5 3-inch gun
maps.live.com/default....&encType=1

Ypsilanti
VFW, 616 W Michigan Avenue
S/N 4411A (tow lug and engine deck/hull)
R/N 03A01970 on glacis and painted on air cleaner
Bumper codes 38 1 ^ 246 A6
maps.live.com/default....&encType=1

And this is the M60 in Westland MI, as reported earlier.
maps.live.com/default....&encType=1
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
HellonwheelsV100
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 15, 2007
Posts: 67

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

There was a guy out here in OR that had an M60A1. I have no idea how he managed to get ahold of it. It was in excellent shape, and he ran it around the dunes all the time. I think someone in CA bought it after he passed away- not Littlefield either. Would love to know the story behind that one. I will post the pics I took of it when I find them.

_________________
Dave C
MVPA, MVCCO
Portland OR
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Thanks Kurt!

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:38 am
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Dave C said:

There was a guy out here in OR that had an M60A1. I have no idea how he managed to get ahold of it.


It seems that most civilian owned M60A1's came from USMC stock, not sure if they are less restrictive than the Army, I'd bet this one fell in that category. IIRC Mr. Littlefield's is one of the few Army (if only) M60A1's in civilian hands.

Thanks for the updates Kurt,

Interesting that the TACOM list got the Ann Arbor VFW Post 423 SN so wrong (They list her as 4410A). How do you confuse those two numbers Confused ?

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

[quote="Joe_D"]


Interesting that the TACOM list got the Ann Arbor VFW Post 423 SN so wrong (They list her as 4410A). How do you confuse those two numbers Confused ?


Maybe it has something to do with the mixed-up registrations? The two tanks were clearly in the same unit. The stenciled R/Ns were both the same style and location. On one it matched the stamped R/N, on one it didn't. The non-matching one had the wrong S/N on the list. I doubt the last painters just made up a R/N, so clearly there was something amiss with the paperwork at some point.

Neil, where is 4389A supposed to be?

BTW, I have a confirmed tank in the area that isn't on the list, possible M60A1/A3. I might be able to check it out this weekend.

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Kurt,

I am not tracking 4289A anymore since you confirmed the Ann Arbor Tank SN. The TACOM list doesn't have her either, but doesn't mean she's not out there since all the tanks in front of armory's are still in the Army's inventory.

There are two tanks in Michigan I'd love to check out,

One is listed as an M60, SN 17 in Mount Clemens, Lat/Long 42.565796, -82.978025. From a satellite recon she appears to be an A3. Curious if she's one of the Pilot A3's.

The other is listed as M60A3 SN 5 in Birch Run. Lat/Long 43.259833, -83.776083. This one appears to still have the older Passive sights along with an uncapped searchlight receptacle. But my pictures are kinda grainy.

Being they are so close to Detroit there's a good chance they are Pilot models. If your travels take you that way I'd be most interested in your findings.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Here's a couple of pics of the Freeland PA M60A2 passed on to me by Tom Dinackus.





I also have a pic of the Charlottesville NGIC T-64 and some M59/84 pics he passed on that I will post...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

Thanks Neil for sharing,

The hull is correct for the serial number listed. Pretty sure the TACOM list is a double listing of the same tank. Google'n VFW Post 473 I only get some minor mentions in the news but no recent stuff other than an address. Willing to bet the City signed for the tank when time to verify the location and no one from the ALP was around.

Kurt,

On that RN for the Ypsilanti tank, you sure that couldn't be 09A01970 and whoever painted the RN got it wrong ??? Tanks should start with 09 or 9 back then until they changed to the Alphanumeric 6 digit RN's later. It'd be the first 03 I've ever heard of between M48's and M60's.

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:31 pm
Post subject: Re: Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti MI M60A3s, Westland MI M60

- Joe_D


On that RN for the Ypsilanti tank, you sure that couldn't be 09A01970 and whoever painted the RN got it wrong ??? Tanks should start with 09 or 9 back then until they changed to the Alphanumeric 6 digit RN's later. It'd be the first 03 I've ever heard of between M48's and M60's.



I'm pretty sure that's right but now you make me doubt myself . . . Unfortunately I didn't have a camera. . .

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum