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The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.

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RhinoQ
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:53 pm
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As requested.

These are bad pictures but a quick look. I'll try to get better ones this week before I leavewith my camera.

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I will work on better ones!

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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: Foreign Tanks
Many, many thanks RhinoQ!!! Can anyone help identify these? T-55 (foreground) and T-62MV with ERA??? Neil

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:43 am Post subject: Re: Foreign Tanks
- Neil_Baumgardner Neil Foreground Yugo built M80 IFV. Background, ACRV it's like a M577 built on the 2S1 chassis - Neil_Baumgardner Neil Foreground Type69. Background Iraqi T55 with their own up-armor setup.

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Foreign Tanks
Tanker2010 Do you know the difference between a Type 59 and a type 69? There is one at Bergen, Germany preserved with a sign in front that it is a type 59 and it looks the same as the one mentioned above (ventilator, LRF). Thanks in advance Regards

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:47 am
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- L.Delsing

Do you know the difference between a Type 59 and a type 69?
There is one at Bergen, Germany preserved with a sign in front that it is a type 59 and it looks the same as the one mentioned above (ventilator, LRF).

The ventilator has nothing to do with it, they both have it. Main ID point in this pic is the laser range finder. Not all Type 69s have the laser, but none of the Type 59s did. Not seen in this pic, but the other main ID point for a Type 69 is the engine fan bulge in the lower rear hull like that of a T62.

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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Foreign Tanks
Ok, thanks!! I change it in my list. Regards, Lesley

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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Foreign Tanks
- tanker2010 - Neil_Baumgardner Neil Foreground Yugo built M80 IFV. Background, ACRV it's like a M577 built on the 2S1 chassis In the background is actually MT-LBu with Mashina system. It is command/observation vehicle for 2S1 and 2S3 units.

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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:51 pm
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- L.Delsing

Do you know the difference between a Type 59 and a type 69?
There is one at Bergen, Germany preserved with a sign in front that it is a type 59 and it looks the same as the one mentioned above (ventilator, LRF).

The ventilator has nothing to do with it, they both have it. Main ID point in this pic is the laser range finder. Not all Type 69s have the laser, but none of the Type 59s did. Not seen in this pic, but the other main ID point for a Type 69 is the engine fan bulge in the lower rear hull like that of a T62.

Also, if I remember correctly, the headlights on the fenders are clue to this being a Type 69. Type 59's have them on the glacis plate, just like the T-54/55's

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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Foreign Tanks
Yep, T-69. www.gulflink.org/cav/cav.htm Which basically is a copy of the T-54.

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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:23 am
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Yep, T-69.
Which basically is a copy of the T-54.

Well, yes and no. The Type 59 was a copy of the T54. The Type 69 was an improved version of the Type 54 thst would bring it up to T55 standards or better.

On another note, man who captioned those pics on that site, lol. Soviet AMX-10P Infantry Combat Vehicle (made in France), Soviet EE-11 URUTU Personnel Carrier (made in Brazil), got the names right but the country of origin wayyyy off.

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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:46 pm
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- JeffStringer

Yep, T-69.
Which basically is a copy of the T-54.

Well, yes and no. The Type 59 was a copy of the T54. The Type 69 was an improved version of the Type 54 thst would bring it up to T55 standards or better.

On another note, man who captioned those pics on that site, lol. Soviet AMX-10P Infantry Combat Vehicle (made in France), Soviet EE-11 URUTU Personnel Carrier (made in Brazil), got the names right but the country of origin wayyyy off.

That's why I said "basically". Laughing

I didn't want to type out a whole explanation and only wanted to show the pictures of each tank. Wink

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