±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 427
Total: 427
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Home
03: Member Screenshots
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Your Account
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Downloads
17: Home
18: Community Forums
19: Member Screenshots
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Home
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Home
27: Home
28: Downloads
29: Community Forums
30: Home
31: Downloads
32: Home
33: Community Forums
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Home
38: Member Screenshots
39: Home
40: Home
41: Home
42: Home
43: Downloads
44: Home
45: Downloads
46: Home
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Photo Gallery
51: Home
52: Home
53: Home
54: Home
55: Home
56: Photo Gallery
57: Home
58: Community Forums
59: Home
60: Home
61: Home
62: Community Forums
63: Home
64: Home
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: Home
71: Home
72: Downloads
73: News
74: Home
75: Home
76: Downloads
77: Home
78: Home
79: Home
80: Photo Gallery
81: News Archive
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Member Screenshots
85: Photo Gallery
86: Community Forums
87: Home
88: Home
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Downloads
92: Home
93: Your Account
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Home
100: Member Screenshots
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Statistics
105: Home
106: Home
107: Home
108: Home
109: Community Forums
110: Home
111: Member Screenshots
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Home
115: Home
116: Downloads
117: Photo Gallery
118: Member Screenshots
119: Member Screenshots
120: Downloads
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: News Archive
124: Community Forums
125: Home
126: Home
127: Home
128: Home
129: Home
130: Home
131: Member Screenshots
132: Member Screenshots
133: Your Account
134: Community Forums
135: Home
136: Home
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Home
141: Home
142: Photo Gallery
143: Member Screenshots
144: Home
145: Home
146: Member Screenshots
147: Home
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Downloads
151: Home
152: Home
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Photo Gallery
156: Your Account
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Downloads
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Home
167: Downloads
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Member Screenshots
172: Home
173: Members List
174: Downloads
175: Photo Gallery
176: Photo Gallery
177: Downloads
178: Members List
179: Home
180: Statistics
181: Home
182: Home
183: Member Screenshots
184: Home
185: Member Screenshots
186: Members List
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Home
191: Photo Gallery
192: Downloads
193: Home
194: Member Screenshots
195: Member Screenshots
196: Photo Gallery
197: Home
198: Community Forums
199: Home
200: Home
201: Home
202: Home
203: Photo Gallery
204: Home
205: Member Screenshots
206: Photo Gallery
207: Community Forums
208: Photo Gallery
209: Member Screenshots
210: Home
211: Home
212: Home
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Downloads
216: Photo Gallery
217: Home
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Member Screenshots
221: Photo Gallery
222: Home
223: Your Account
224: Photo Gallery
225: Community Forums
226: Photo Gallery
227: News
228: Home
229: Photo Gallery
230: Home
231: Photo Gallery
232: Supporters
233: Community Forums
234: Home
235: Home
236: Home
237: Home
238: Home
239: Home
240: Home
241: Home
242: Home
243: Home
244: Home
245: Home
246: Photo Gallery
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Home
250: Member Screenshots
251: Photo Gallery
252: Community Forums
253: Home
254: Home
255: Home
256: Downloads
257: Home
258: Home
259: Home
260: Home
261: Photo Gallery
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Home
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: News
271: Photo Gallery
272: Home
273: Home
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: News Archive
277: News Archive
278: Community Forums
279: Your Account
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Home
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Home
289: Community Forums
290: Photo Gallery
291: Home
292: Downloads
293: Home
294: Home
295: Home
296: Home
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Home
300: Photo Gallery
301: Home
302: News
303: Home
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Downloads
307: Photo Gallery
308: Photo Gallery
309: Home
310: Home
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Downloads
314: Home
315: Home
316: Home
317: Photo Gallery
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Member Screenshots
321: Home
322: Home
323: Photo Gallery
324: Community Forums
325: Photo Gallery
326: Photo Gallery
327: Home
328: Community Forums
329: Photo Gallery
330: Community Forums
331: Home
332: Home
333: Community Forums
334: Member Screenshots
335: Home
336: Community Forums
337: Your Account
338: Photo Gallery
339: Home
340: News
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Member Screenshots
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Photo Gallery
347: Home
348: Photo Gallery
349: Member Screenshots
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Home
353: Community Forums
354: Home
355: Home
356: Community Forums
357: Member Screenshots
358: Community Forums
359: Home
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Home
365: Home
366: Home
367: Home
368: Photo Gallery
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Home
374: Home
375: Home
376: Home
377: Community Forums
378: Home
379: Photo Gallery
380: Home
381: Home
382: Home
383: Home
384: Home
385: Home
386: Home
387: Community Forums
388: Photo Gallery
389: Community Forums
390: Home
391: Community Forums
392: Photo Gallery
393: Home
394: Community Forums
395: Member Screenshots
396: Photo Gallery
397: Community Forums
398: Home
399: Home
400: Home
401: Photo Gallery
402: Member Screenshots
403: Home
404: Home
405: Home
406: Community Forums
407: Home
408: Member Screenshots
409: Photo Gallery
410: Community Forums
411: Downloads
412: Home
413: Member Screenshots
414: Community Forums
415: Home
416: Home
417: Home
418: Home
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: Home
424: Community Forums
425: Home
426: Home
427: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
side hinge .50cal ammo can
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Maple_Leaf_Eh
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 517

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:03 am
Post subject: side hinge .50cal ammo can

Found a pretty nice early .50cal ammo can today. The stencilling indicates API repacked at some later date. My question to the assembled multitude, when did the side hinge ammo can give way to the modern end hinge ammo can?
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:26 am
Post subject: Re: side hinge .50cal ammo can

Taking a wild guess, I'd say in the 50's. Mid-50's post Korean war.

Thats with no 'quickie' research, just guessing.

HTH
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:03 am
Post subject: Re: side hinge .50cal ammo can

Close Don. The BOX, ammunition, Caliber .50, M2A1 was recommended for standardization on 12 APR 51 via OCM 33649. It also notes that the deep sides on the lid were meant to act as as feed tray, and that there was no production of the M2 box between 1945 and at least 1951.

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Maple_Leaf_Eh
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 517

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:16 pm
Post subject: Re: side hinge .50cal ammo can

OK fellas, that makes more sense. I had a closer look last night. It is stamped makers' mark < BURROWES > and the flaming bomb on one end. The front has < AMM. BOX CAL..50 M2 >. The green paint is overpainted with a drab brown swathe and stencilled with an ambiguous lot number < REPACK'D LOT TW-L-18362 >. The only obvious clue is the TW code, for Twin Cities arsenal. That was near Denver and I have clipped Garand ammo from there.

Since this forum is about applied military technology, what is interesting, besides the fact a 65yr old machine gun ammo can is almost unrusted, is how crude the welds are. The end panels are single stampings, and the centre is another. The joints around the ends look like a disinterested high school shop student cranked the heat up on his arc welder and sparked away. Big lumps and blobs of weld all around the perimeter. I post a picture, but this question is not really worth killing more innocent electrons.

And just to show how connected the world has become, there is a similar can listed at: www.armysurpluswarehou...n-4383.cfm
Back to top
View user's profile
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:21 pm
Post subject: Re: side hinge .50cal ammo can

I never realized the lid is a feed tray. Interesting....

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:59 pm
Post subject: Re: side hinge .50cal ammo can

They stole the feed tray lid idea from the German WWII ammo can

The US WWII cans were crude because they were considered throw away items, German gunners were expected to recover their cans and re-fill them, US gunners were not.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:25 pm
Post subject: Re: side hinge .50cal ammo can

"The only obvious clue is the TW code, for Twin Cities arsenal. That was near Denver and I have clipped Garand ammo from there."

I think you'll find that the "Twin Cities" are Minneapolis-St Paul, not Denver-Arvada . . .

The repacked TW-L lot number means that the box was used for a combination of several other lots - usually it was for the ball, AP, and tracer rounds as each would each have their own lot numbers. The L stands for metal links. In this case it might be for the ammo and links.

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6258
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:29 pm
Post subject: Re: side hinge .50cal ammo can

- Kurt_Laughlin
"The only obvious clue is the TW code, for Twin Cities arsenal. That was near Denver and I have clipped Garand ammo from there."

I think you'll find that the "Twin Cities" are Minneapolis-St Paul, not Denver-Arvada . . .


KL


Agreed, the Denver arsenal was RMA (Rocky Mountain Arsenal), as distinct from it's neighbor, Rocky Flats (plutonium and other nasty bits). RMA was also a CW manufacturing/assembly site.

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum