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Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
OK who do I have to bribe and how much to get a day there with someone removing all the tarps so I can image the vehicles... _________________ TTFN Jim If your not a member of JED then your not serious about anything military.. ********************* www.jedsite.info JED Military Equipment *********************

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
- Joe_D Neil, This is my listing of M60 series at Knox. All can be verified by pictures unless in italics. M60A1 SN unknown, RN 09A12771 LST building M60A3 [i]SN 3621A, JJ009C LST Building Thanks - a few on your list I didnt know about it! Is there a third "M60" in the LST Building by chance? I have an "SN" 913881 (USMC RN or an old-style RN?)... Seems suspicious... Neil

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:22 pm
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Jim,

I wasn't kidding when I told Dontos I'd pay for the fuel/ make a donation to move these old girls out in the open. It would be worth it to get some good pictures. There's at least two I'd do that for.

Neil,

I think some like the Copple Center tank is one of them but I cannot find the RN with all the paint. Those tanks in the LST and other indoor storage have eluded my camera, I deduced their numbers based on pictures I've seen.

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
The LST has: M48A2C: SN 923 M60 (slick) SN 913881 M60A1: SN: 09A12771 M60A3 SN 3621A RN JJ009J Was in Richardson this morning. Took a couple of M48A5E1 but didn't have any real time to untarp her. I'll post some of the 'today' stuff a little later Don

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
I tracked these down today. They had gone missing, but are just getting a fresh coat of paint. AND.... The M-1IP that used to be next to 16th CAV HQ Building Don

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
Don, Can I also give you my first born child? I'll see what I can do for your request... <grumble> Neil

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
HA HA HA....thanks BTW The FT17 that was in the museum and then moved to RMP,....left today for Carlylse Barracks Penn. Photos to follow Don

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
Todays 'fun'..... opening up the 3 ton ford And then climbing in... Talk about lack of room!! Before this, I watched our FT17 get loaded up on a truck for a one-way trip to Pennslyvania. All kinds of fun Don

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
Shouldn't this man be in a doughboy's uniform? And why does he have his knees in his armpits? _________________ "All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:14 pm
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I've been cross-taining. My feet are on the pedals, needless to say there isn't much room in this tank.

The really interesting fact is the engine has been replaced with a flat-head 4cyl engine (WWII Jeep?). The 3ton was used by the Ft Knox commanders for 'pass & review' ceremonies many years ago. The engine has been installed in the machine gunners position. immediately behind the MG is the radiator and then the engine. The rear compartment is empty except for the 'modern' final drive and transmission. It has seen a considerable amount of 'reengineering' to fit the 'modern' drive train & power plant.

This two man tank, has been converted to a One Man tank.

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
With the average coat size in 1918 a 38 it might have been easier to get in that little tank where in PA is the FT17 headed?

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:32 am
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Neil,

I looked at Don's "Armored Ghosts" site. This is what I noticed,
(Don, please take no offense)

The M48 at Stithton traffic circle was an M48A2C IIRC. Only knew of one A3 on post and she's in the museum

5-22) USMC M60A1 SN 7109, USMC RN 399630
5-13) M60A3 at Sadowski Field House should be SN 2448A, correct RN
5-35) M60A3 2004A RN JJ0457
5-34) M60A1 8587 RN JJ010G
5-32) M60A3 2278A RN JJ04D9

About those SN/RN's I posted in italics, I was scratching my head on where I got them from and finally figured it out. They are from the official Patton Museum web site Patton Museum.

So where are these missing tanks or do they exist?

BTW, I can't prove it but I'm pretty sure JJ00ZW is SN 9349, the Copple Center Tank.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:46 am
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- Joe_D

Neil,

I looked at Don's "Armored Ghosts" site. This is what I noticed,
(Don, please take no offense)

The M48 at Stithton traffic circle was an M48A2C IIRC. Only knew of one A3 on post and she's in the museum

This one? I honestly don't now recall if I took this, or if it was "A-109", aka, "Bob Steinbrunn(sp?), the chopper pilot"

P.S....Wasn't that the old main PX there in the background?

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
That's the one I'm talking about. I remember when the tracks ran through that circle. That building is "One Stop" as of last August. Spent my last day in the Army in there. Gave me a flag and DD-214 along with a retired sticker and lapel pin. Only thing I didn't get was a "Gold Watch" _________________ Joe_D

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Armored Ghosts of Fort Knox
JOE All these damn M60s are getting me confused... I'm finding alot of past info is conflicting, so I'm in the process of going to each source, getting new pictures, and annotating any information. (just about then, someone moves a tank, so it then becomes 'Wheres Waldo?') No offense taken. Just want to get it right. Guess I just ain't there yet. Tanks alot Don

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