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Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:29 am Post subject: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
I was able to use some of my connections to see what "legacy vehicles" Textron Marine & Land Systems has in storage... Not very pretty, but they'd like to restore them & put them on display in a showroom someday... V-150 Commando Stingray II? LAV-600 (minus turret) LAV-600 turret Neil

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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-
I always liked that Stingray and think it would have been a good replacement for the Sheridan. _________________ "TUMBLEWEED"

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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
I agree, IIRC the Thai Army have them but are having problems keeping them operational. Mostly due to lack of funds. I guess that's what happens when you buy a system that a major power doesn't use. Parts are unique and can be quite expensive. Unlike the M41's they use. They always make the news when there's a coup. _________________ Joe_D

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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-
Neil- Thanks for posting these! I would love to talk to your contact if he/she would be interested. Have several cad gage questions. Dave C _________________ Dave C MVPA, MVCCO Portland OR

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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
Dave, Not sure how much I can really help, but I'll shoot you a PM. Neil

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
The 'commando' is a Dragoon I suspect... _________________ TTFN Jim If your not a member of JED then your not serious about anything military.. ********************* www.jedsite.info JED Military Equipment *********************

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
Really??? If so its in a very odd place... Neil

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
Not really Cadillac-gage produced all of Arrowpoints prototypes apparently. _________________ TTFN Jim If your not a member of JED then your not serious about anything military.. ********************* www.jedsite.info JED Military Equipment *********************

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
I must say (comparing to the pics on your site), the upper hull doesnt look right to me for a Dragoon and looks more like a V-150 but perhaps you are seeing something I'm not... Or perhaps its some sort of prototype inbetween? Neil

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
I wonder if they are looking for an experienced 'Restoration Specialist'.....?? Hmmmmmm Regards Don

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:37 pm
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- Neil_Baumgardner

I must say (comparing to the pics on your site), the upper hull doesnt look right to me for a Dragoon and looks more like a V-150 but perhaps you are seeing something I'm not... Or perhaps its some sort of prototype inbetween?

Neil

Yeah I think it is as well. The double doors are an indicator for a Dragoon but I think that's the first one I have seen with them on both sides.

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
neil thank you just what the doctor ordered ossie

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:19 am
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Ah, okay.... Here's why I'd say its more of a V-150 than a Dragoon:

1) Upper front hull. In the V-150 there is a drop from the crew compartment to the hull. On the Dragoon the diagonal line from the hull to the top of the crew compartment continues without such a major drop/break.
2) The Dragoon's driver windshield vision blocks are three-piece (modified from the M113's blocks?). The V-150 has more conventional vision blocks.
3) Overall, the Commando features smoother, cleaner lines. The Dragoon has harder, sharper edges/lines.

Overall, I'd call it a V-150 Commando - albeit perhaps with some Dragoon features (double doors). Although this could well be a Cadillac Gage prototype feature that wasnt initially used in production Commandos but later re-appeared on the Dragoon...

Neil

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
And then again it could be the TMLS-150 An Arrowpoint Dragoon hull with ASV/M1117 guts... _________________ TTFN Jim If your not a member of JED then your not serious about anything military.. ********************* www.jedsite.info JED Military Equipment *********************

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:49 am Post subject: Re: Bonus! The Cadillac Gage Boneyard: V-150, Stingray, LAV-600
Is the Stingray the same as the XM8? Dan

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