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Heres a partial shot of one of the Richardson M.P. M26's, I took last week. Will get better ones tomorrow, hopefully.



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New register :

M26 Pershing register

The file may contain some mistakes, as I don't know how to recognize an M26 Pershing from an M46 Patton..


Hi P-O

I always look at the back of the vehicle, at a M26 Pershing the sprocket wheel is placed much lower than on a M46. The track makes a good visible bend downward. That makes the entry for South Korea to my opinion A M46.

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The Panzermuseum in Full has something that looks like a Sdkfz 251, but I am unable to tell if it's a disguised OT-810 (they also have a OT-810 with closed top). I can post some pictures if you think it may help.

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I see you added L6 to the italian document. Strictly speaking they should be considered light tanks, but I am glad you added them anyway.

According to this book:
nuke.gmtmodellismo.it/...fault.aspx

The turret from the L6 in Caserma "Cadorna", Legnano is a replica. They also say it has been moved to Solbiate Olona (Varese)

One day we should try to list all the L3 too, but that's going to be a major task, since there are plenty of them still around the world. A good starting point is available from this book:
nuke.gmtmodellismo.it/...fault.aspx

I can translate and post the list if you think it may help

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- Massimo_Foti
One day we should try to list all the L3 too, but that's going to be a major task, since there are plenty of them still around the world.


I've got some slack today and gave this a try. It's a first attempt... But you have to start somewhere

Most information are based on this book, published in 2004:
nuke.gmtmodellismo.it/...fault.aspx

Some additional info can be gathered from this website, but it hasn't been updated since a few years:
digilander.libero.it/p...nto_02.htm

Tanks are ordered first by model, then by location (as in the above book).

ITALY

Aviano. L33. Used to be outside the Army's barracks, current location unknown

Bari. L 33. Sacrario Caduti d'Oltremare
digilander.libero.it/p...3_bari.htm

Bellinzago. L 33
digilander.libero.it/p...l3_bel.htm

Cassino. L 33. Not there anymore since a very long time

Lecce. L 33. Caserme "Nacci" e "Zappalà". Two tanks
digilander.libero.it/p..._lecce.htm

Roma. Museo Carristi. L 33. This tank has a long, glorious history. It was commanded by Sergente Magg. Rosolino Sarotti, who died at Hamanlei. Ethiopia, November 11th 1935. He was decorated with Medaglia d'Oro (highest italian military award). The tank was later recovered and moved back to Roma. This is how it, sadly, looked back in 1998:
www.massimocorner.com/...arotti.jpg

Roma. Museo Carristi. L 33. This one was in a much better shape, but stored in the open. This is how it looked in 1998:
www.massimocorner.com/...rristi.jpg

Trieste. L 33. Museo de Henriquez

Albenga. L 35. One tank was there around the '70, current location unknown

Aviano. L 35. "Ariete"

Aviano. L 35. "Ariete". This one is a runner but restored with a modern engine and incorrect cowling

Cesano. L 35. Caserma Becchi
digilander.libero.it/p...cesano.htm

Grosseto. L 35. "Savoia Cavalleria"
digilander.libero.it/p...l3_gro.htm

Palermo. L 35. "Lancieri di Aosta"
digilander.libero.it/p..._aosta.htm

Pinerolo. L 35. Museo della Cavalleria
digilander.libero.it/p...nerolo.htm

Pinerolo. L 35. Museo della Cavalleria. Formely at "Lodi Cavalleria"

Roma. Castel Sant'Angelo. Two L 35 used to be there around the '60, current location unknown

Trieste. L 35 Lanciafiamme. Museo de Henriquez
digilander.libero.it/p...3lf_ts.htm

Caserta. L 35 Radio. Scuola truppe corazzate

San Marino. L 38. Private Collection. Beautifully restored from a relic found in Corsica. It's a runner

Solbiate Olona. L 38
digilander.libero.it/p...lbiate.htm

Roma. L 38. Museo della Motorizzazione della Cecchignola.
Back in 1998 it was in a pretty good shape:
www.massimocorner.com/...ignola.jpg

Teulada. L 38. Caserma Mara
digilander.libero.it/p...38_teu.htm

OUTSIDE ITALY

Ottawa (Canada). L 33. War Museum, Vimy House

Managua (Nicaragua). Was under restoration in 2001

Bovington (UK). L 33 Lanciafiamme. Tank Museum
digilander.libero.it/p...l3_bov.htm

Kabul (Afghanistan). L 35. At least two, one spotted back in the '80. Seems like one was bring back to Italy. This picture display an L 35 in Kabul, recovered by italian troops in 2004:
digilander.libero.it/p..._kabul.htm
Here is another one:
digilander.libero.it/p...l3_afg.htm

Brasil. L 35. At least three tanks should be there

Beijing (China). L 35.
digilander.libero.it/p...echino.htm

Zagreb (Croatia). L 35. Science museum
digilander.libero.it/p...l3_zag.htm

Iraq. L 35. Rumors about it to be moved to Texas
digilander.libero.it/p...3_iraq.htm

Kubinka (Russia). L 35. From hungarian army

Belgrade (Serbia). L 35. From hungarian army
digilander.libero.it/p...lgrado.htm

Madrid (Spain) . L 35. El Goloso barracks. There should be at least two tanks here

Sanaa (Yemen). L 35. Military museum

Saxonwold (South Africa). CV 35 Radio.


The L 3 was manufactured in pretty large numbers and sold to different countries. Tracking all the surviving tanks is going to be a challenge, but an interesting one indeed

Hope it will help

Massimo
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:14 pm
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Massimo,

thanks for all the information.
The L3 carrier PDF file is a project and I already have some materials about it but as you said, it will require some time and work to list all of them. Now I'm busy and can't publish new registers, only update the older ones. New registers will of course be put online, but not before August.

That's the reason why I added the L6 light tanks with the Italian medium tanks. Anyway there were not enough of them to put them in a single file.

To answer to your first inquiry, the Half-Track in Full/Reuenthal is an OT-810 and not an SdKfz 251.

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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:17 pm
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- Tichenor
New register :

M26 Pershing register

The file may contain some mistakes, as I don't know how to recognize an M26 Pershing from an M46 Patton..


Hi P-O

I always look at the back of the vehicle, at a M26 Pershing the sprocket wheel is placed much lower than on a M46. The track makes a good visible bend downward. That makes the entry for South Korea to my opinion A M46.

Michel


well, I have to check this..

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Take your time, no need to hurry up. You have done a terrific job already.

Thanks for the clarification on the OT-810 as well.

Massimo
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:15 pm
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Hi,

There was a 33 recovered from Iraq in 2004. I found it at COB Speicher, near Tikrit. Well, "found it" may be a bit strong...it was perched on a hump outside a maintenance shop, but I was the one who recognized it as something of an oddity in Iraq.

After I notified the 1st Infantry Division historian, the 33 was collected and moved to either Germany or the US. There was a dispute among the Army museums about who should get it, but I think the 1st ID won because they actually had possession of it. The intent was to restore and display it, but I have no idea what actually happened to it.

If it is in Germany, it is probably in Vilseck or Grafenwoehr. If it is in the US, it could be at Ft. Riley where much of the division ended up. If not, I have no idea where else it might have gone.

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well, it would be interesting to know what happened to some historic tanks located in Irak, such as some Sherman (a sort of scrapyard was shown on the internet with dozens of Shermies and M36 TDs..) T-34/85 tanks, other WW2 stuff, and overall, the "10.5 cm leFH 18(Sf) auf Geschützwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f) – Bassorah area (Iraq)" with the current location and fate unknown.
Was it recovered from there? I guess that no, it wasn't.

photo of the beast :



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I was reviewing Surviving_Italian_Medium_Heavy_Tanks.pdf today, because I plan to be in Bergamo next month (should have good news and better pictures from the Semovente over there). I realized you are still looking for "M14/41 - Museo della Motorizzazione Militare della Cecchignola".

That M14/41 used to be at Cecchignola, Roma, but was moved to Museo dei Carristi, Roma in the '90. I remember talking with a NCO from Cecchignola who was quiet upsed about that, because the tank was restored by Cecchignola's crew and they had to give it away due to an order "from above". Even worst, Museo dei Carristi stores tanks on the outside, while at Cecchignola the tank was under cover.

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Thanks Massimo for the information. Sorry but I don't have much free times to do all the updates.. they will be done, however Mr. Green

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No need to apologize, take your time.

In the meantime I should be able to collect more contributions, I am still chasing that elusive Pz 39 in Switzerland, and should be in Bergamo next week (hope the weather will be good).

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The Pz 39 is alive and kicking in Schaffhausen

I also managed to be in Bergamo, got good news and plenty of pictures. See the dedicated thread.

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P-O, FYI
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